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    Joanfercal
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    #8

    I could help with Spanish if you're interested.

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      thetomester13
      App Dev
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      #9

      When this is ready I can contribute Hebrew translations if we plan to support RTL languages!

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        jimcavoli
        App Dev
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        #10

        I've submitted several suggestions for the Italian translation - is that an okay way to go or should I stop doing that for a bit?

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          nebulon
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          I would prefer to still hold off a bit on suggestions as I am still building up those translation keys and thus I won't accept them yet. Once this stabilizes I am an not sure if it would then make sense to open up registration for our weblate instance so we can have a non anonymous discussion on translation strings, which I would prefer.

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            jeau
            App Dev
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            #12

            Thank you for this work. When it will be stabilized, I will be available to contribute to the French translation.

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              jimcavoli
              App Dev
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              #13

              Just wanted to mention how much I love the fact that even before being 100% ready to process contributed translations that we've got commitments on at least 5 languages! That's awesome. It would be good perhaps for those of us that use the product and can contribute any translation to set some goals for completing those that we can get started. So by my count so far, we've got people ready to work on:

              • de
              • fr
              • it
              • nl (not in weblate yet)
              • es (not in weblate yet)
              • he (not in weblate yet, RTL)

              Big ones there are definitely going to be easy to complete look like de, es, and fr, which, considering en is already in the mix, probably covers at least one language of most of our user base. I wonder if we could dig up some folks to tackle any of hi, zh, ja, and ar since those would all be potentially valuable places to have native-language support, with large populations and well-developed internet access. I am uniquely un-qualified to work any of those, however.

              Couple useful resources/citations on expansion:

              • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_languages_by_number_of_native_speakers
              • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_languages_by_total_number_of_speakers (somewhat better than above; includes portions of that data as well)
              • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ISO_639-1_codes
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              • nebulonN nebulon

                I would prefer to still hold off a bit on suggestions as I am still building up those translation keys and thus I won't accept them yet. Once this stabilizes I am an not sure if it would then make sense to open up registration for our weblate instance so we can have a non anonymous discussion on translation strings, which I would prefer.

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                rmdes
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                @nebulon I can give a hand on French, Portuguese

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                  nebulon
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                  #15

                  This is a good point about the languages we want to support. From our side we can only do English and German and parts Italian. My leftover French from school is probably not gonna help much 😉

                  Currently there are about 900 strings to translate, quite a few are the same, but we kept the translation IDs distinct for the future, weblate should propose translations though if similar.

                  From what I can tell here, there are enough people willing to help on the French, Dutch and maybe Spanish (either way I think Spanish is very important) translation, so the list currently is:

                  • English (en)
                  • German (de)
                  • French (fr)
                  • Italian (it)
                  • Spanish (es)
                  • Dutch (nl)

                  Please speak up here if you want to help out in any other language and I will update the above list.

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                  • nebulonN nebulon

                    This is a good point about the languages we want to support. From our side we can only do English and German and parts Italian. My leftover French from school is probably not gonna help much 😉

                    Currently there are about 900 strings to translate, quite a few are the same, but we kept the translation IDs distinct for the future, weblate should propose translations though if similar.

                    From what I can tell here, there are enough people willing to help on the French, Dutch and maybe Spanish (either way I think Spanish is very important) translation, so the list currently is:

                    • English (en)
                    • German (de)
                    • French (fr)
                    • Italian (it)
                    • Spanish (es)
                    • Dutch (nl)

                    Please speak up here if you want to help out in any other language and I will update the above list.

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                    marcusquinn
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                    #16

                    @eriktad perhaps something we could seed populate for all languages with our translation engine? (900 words wouldn't cost anything)

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                    • nebulonN nebulon

                      This is a good point about the languages we want to support. From our side we can only do English and German and parts Italian. My leftover French from school is probably not gonna help much 😉

                      Currently there are about 900 strings to translate, quite a few are the same, but we kept the translation IDs distinct for the future, weblate should propose translations though if similar.

                      From what I can tell here, there are enough people willing to help on the French, Dutch and maybe Spanish (either way I think Spanish is very important) translation, so the list currently is:

                      • English (en)
                      • German (de)
                      • French (fr)
                      • Italian (it)
                      • Spanish (es)
                      • Dutch (nl)

                      Please speak up here if you want to help out in any other language and I will update the above list.

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                      imc67
                      translator
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                      @nebulon said in Translations for Cloudron:

                      Dutch

                      I can do the Dutch version!

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                        ei8fdb
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                        #18

                        Edit: I've modified the link below as it seems the embedded is being blocked

                        @girish @nebulon If it helps, I've put this quick survey together to gather some quant data for languages spoken:

                        https://saneuxdesign.survey.fm/what-languages-are-spoken-by-cloudron-users

                        If your language is not listed there, you can add it in the "other" field. If there's a need I'll update the list with new languages.

                        The data can be shared publicly to give an idea of %'s of languages spoken.

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                        • ei8fdbE ei8fdb

                          Edit: I've modified the link below as it seems the embedded is being blocked

                          @girish @nebulon If it helps, I've put this quick survey together to gather some quant data for languages spoken:

                          https://saneuxdesign.survey.fm/what-languages-are-spoken-by-cloudron-users

                          If your language is not listed there, you can add it in the "other" field. If there's a need I'll update the list with new languages.

                          The data can be shared publicly to give an idea of %'s of languages spoken.

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                          nebulon
                          Staff
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                          @ei8fdb I seem to be getting a :Page Not Found" in the iframe there?

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                            Edit: I've modified the link below as it seems the embedded is being blocked

                            @girish @nebulon If it helps, I've put this quick survey together to gather some quant data for languages spoken:

                            https://saneuxdesign.survey.fm/what-languages-are-spoken-by-cloudron-users

                            If your language is not listed there, you can add it in the "other" field. If there's a need I'll update the list with new languages.

                            The data can be shared publicly to give an idea of %'s of languages spoken.

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                            girish
                            Staff
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                            @ei8fdb I installed the poll plugin on this forum for you if you want to give it a try (make a separate post somwhere). This is the plugin I installed - https://github.com/NodeBB/nodebb-plugin-poll . There is a button in the new post dialog (looks like a graph), if you click it, it brings up a poll window.

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                            • girishG girish

                              @ei8fdb I installed the poll plugin on this forum for you if you want to give it a try (make a separate post somwhere). This is the plugin I installed - https://github.com/NodeBB/nodebb-plugin-poll . There is a button in the new post dialog (looks like a graph), if you click it, it brings up a poll window.

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                              ei8fdb
                              wrote on last edited by ei8fdb
                              #21

                              @girish Thanks for doing that. I did try it - the only issue is the poll doesn't have an option for the participant to an other option, and so all languages would need to be listed from the beginning.

                              (I've changed the link abive to link directly to the survey)

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                                ei8fdb
                                wrote on last edited by ei8fdb
                                #22

                                Results so far:

                                Responses to the question "What is the main language you speak?"

                                If you'd like to contribute your answer, you can fill out the 2 question survey.

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                                • ei8fdbE ei8fdb

                                  Results so far:

                                  Responses to the question "What is the main language you speak?"

                                  If you'd like to contribute your answer, you can fill out the 2 question survey.

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                                  ei8fdb
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                                  #23

                                  @girish @nebulon These are the results so far. There's been no new data since the Nov 19th.

                                  I'll leave the survey open in case more people reply.

                                  Hope that's useful!

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                                  • ei8fdbE ei8fdb

                                    @girish @nebulon These are the results so far. There's been no new data since the Nov 19th.

                                    I'll leave the survey open in case more people reply.

                                    Hope that's useful!

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                                    nebulon
                                    Staff
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                                    @ei8fdb thanks that is useful. We will ship Cloudron 6 with only English and German as fully translated. This is only because those are the languages we at Cloudron speak 😉
                                    However once version 6 is out, it supports downloading new languages and translations without update, so essentially once a Cloudron is then updated to version 6 then everyone can help out with translation for the rest 🙂

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                                    • nebulonN nebulon

                                      @ei8fdb thanks that is useful. We will ship Cloudron 6 with only English and German as fully translated. This is only because those are the languages we at Cloudron speak 😉
                                      However once version 6 is out, it supports downloading new languages and translations without update, so essentially once a Cloudron is then updated to version 6 then everyone can help out with translation for the rest 🙂

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                                      imc67
                                      translator
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                                      #25

                                      @nebulon can we already start with translating as it might take some time? (Dutch/nl)

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                                        luckow
                                        translator
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                                        To give an idea: the whole translation is done while playing a 10 episode netflix series. After this process you need 3 times 2 hours to make the translation consistent and correct your own typos.

                                        If you want to translate in a team, start with guidelines.For German we have decided to translate according to these guidelines:

                                        • be inclusive & friendly
                                        • avoid to gender. try to find better terms
                                        • if gender is needed use the "*" format
                                        • only translate widly used tech terms. if there is no, don't translate
                                        • in the german language we make a difference between formal and informal salutation. Try to avoid direct salutation.
                                        • put often used terms in the glossary
                                        • as long as necessary but short in focus

                                        Pronouns: he/him | Primary language: German

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                                        • nebulonN nebulon

                                          @ei8fdb thanks that is useful. We will ship Cloudron 6 with only English and German as fully translated. This is only because those are the languages we at Cloudron speak 😉
                                          However once version 6 is out, it supports downloading new languages and translations without update, so essentially once a Cloudron is then updated to version 6 then everyone can help out with translation for the rest 🙂

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                                          ei8fdb
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                                          @nebulon Glad it's useful.

                                          We will ship Cloudron 6 with only English and German as fully translated. This is only because those are the languages we at Cloudron speak

                                          Yup that makes sense.

                                          However once version 6 is out, it supports downloading new languages and translations without update

                                          Great, and the translations will be managed on weblate? I'd like to help with Spanish localisation.

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