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Nextcloud Talk high-performance back-end

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  • doodlemania2D Offline
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    Continuing to play with this. I think it's working, but I think more than just the signaling app needs access to the internet. I think the Janus bits need to be accessible as well. Currently, it's behind the docker net.

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      Going to build Janus and dependencies from source (which will take some time) as the backports are old. While doing this, @nebulon is working on an update to TURN/STUN to enable API access in CR itself! See: https://git.cloudron.io/cloudron/box/-/issues/710

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      • doodlemania2D doodlemania2

        Going to build Janus and dependencies from source (which will take some time) as the backports are old. While doing this, @nebulon is working on an update to TURN/STUN to enable API access in CR itself! See: https://git.cloudron.io/cloudron/box/-/issues/710

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        @doodlemania2 have you managed to make any further progress with getting this packaged? Thanks! 🙂

        I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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          Hi @jdaviescoates - yep - we need to wait for an update to Box to support Auth API things on the Turn server. cc: @girish

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          • girishG Offline
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            Yup, we will add it in Cloudron 6

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            • girishG girish

              Yup, we will add it in Cloudron 6

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              Sounds tantalisingly close, thanks @doodlemania2 @girish ! 😄

              I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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              • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                Sounds tantalisingly close, thanks @doodlemania2 @girish ! 😄

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                #25

                @jdaviescoates said in Nextcloud Talk high-performance back-end:

                Sounds tantalisingly close, thanks @doodlemania2 @girish ! 😄

                In the meantime, Nextcloud 20 is going to make it easy to sign-up to a hosted Nextcloud High Performance Backend

                See:
                https://nextcloud.com/press/pr20201003-6/
                https://help.nextcloud.com/t/nextcloud-hub-20-debuts-dashboard-unifies-search-and-notifications-integrates-with-other-technologies/93838
                https://www.spreed.eu/contact-nextcloud-talk-high-performance-backend/

                I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                  I've got a very early prototype of this working - it just needs some API fun from the Cloudron TURN feature sets. https://git.cloudron.io/doodlemania2/nthpbe

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                  • doodlemania2D doodlemania2

                    I've got a very early prototype of this working - it just needs some API fun from the Cloudron TURN feature sets. https://git.cloudron.io/doodlemania2/nthpbe

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                    Exciting, thanks @doodlemania2!

                    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                    • doodlemania2D doodlemania2

                      I've got a very early prototype of this working - it just needs some API fun from the Cloudron TURN feature sets. https://git.cloudron.io/doodlemania2/nthpbe

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                      @doodlemania2 You might be interested in this: Nextcloud Talk High Performance Backend with Stun/Turnserver on Ubuntu with docker-compose

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                        @doodlemania2 To continue the discussion from the other thread about the TURN server requirements.

                        Per https://markus-blog.de/index.php/2020/07/30/how-to-install-nextcloud-talk-high-performance-backend-with-stun-turnserver-on-ubuntu/, the turnserver only requires a static-auth-secret and that is already set in existing turn server. I guess you are referring to the turn_rest_api_key in the janus configs? That secret is generated and shared between janus and nextcloud-spreed-signaling server from what I can understand. I think the existing turn service should work as-is.

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                        • girishG girish

                          @doodlemania2 To continue the discussion from the other thread about the TURN server requirements.

                          Per https://markus-blog.de/index.php/2020/07/30/how-to-install-nextcloud-talk-high-performance-backend-with-stun-turnserver-on-ubuntu/, the turnserver only requires a static-auth-secret and that is already set in existing turn server. I guess you are referring to the turn_rest_api_key in the janus configs? That secret is generated and shared between janus and nextcloud-spreed-signaling server from what I can understand. I think the existing turn service should work as-is.

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                          @girish oh no! i'm so sorry to have held us all up so long 😞
                          okay - let me re-start my efforts and will study it more closely in addition to @oj 's and others suggestions to look at a prebuilt docker for inspiration.

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                          • doodlemania2D doodlemania2

                            @girish oh no! i'm so sorry to have held us all up so long 😞
                            okay - let me re-start my efforts and will study it more closely in addition to @oj 's and others suggestions to look at a prebuilt docker for inspiration.

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                            @doodlemania2 said in Nextcloud Talk high-performance back-end:

                            okay - let me re-start my efforts and will study it more closely in addition to @oj 's and others suggestions to look at a prebuilt docker for inspiration.

                            Did you manage to have another look? Would be so great to have this! 🙂

                            I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                              @doodlemania2 said in Nextcloud Talk high-performance back-end:

                              okay - let me re-start my efforts and will study it more closely in addition to @oj 's and others suggestions to look at a prebuilt docker for inspiration.

                              Did you manage to have another look? Would be so great to have this! 🙂

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                              @jdaviescoates 😞 I haven't yet and I feel really bad about it - work has been all consuming of late. It's literally at the top of my list, just haven't had a chance! I promise more soon fast as I can!

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                              • doodlemania2D doodlemania2

                                @jdaviescoates 😞 I haven't yet and I feel really bad about it - work has been all consuming of late. It's literally at the top of my list, just haven't had a chance! I promise more soon fast as I can!

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                                @doodlemania2 don't feel bad about it! 🙂

                                But also, great, thanks!

                                I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                                  @doodlemania2 don't feel bad about it! 🙂

                                  But also, great, thanks!

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                                  @jdaviescoates I've been trying to get this to work but it just doesn't (based on the docker-compose example). I've reached out to the author of the blog to see if he can assist!

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                                  • doodlemania2D doodlemania2

                                    @jdaviescoates I've been trying to get this to work but it just doesn't (based on the docker-compose example). I've reached out to the author of the blog to see if he can assist!

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                                    this is ready for testing - please send me a DM if you'd like to try it out!

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                                    • doodlemania2D doodlemania2

                                      this is ready for testing - please send me a DM if you'd like to try it out!

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                                      @doodlemania2 great news! Is https://git.cloudron.io/doodlemania2/nthpbe still the latest repo because it says the commits are from 9 months ago.

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                                        @doodlemania2 great news! Is https://git.cloudron.io/doodlemania2/nthpbe still the latest repo because it says the commits are from 9 months ago.

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                                        @girish we can delete that repo actually - instead of creating a fully packaged cloudron custom app, I decided to offer this to the cloudron community for free* from my VPSs.

                                        *standard "be nice folks" or I turn it off 😉

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                                        • doodlemania2D doodlemania2

                                          @girish we can delete that repo actually - instead of creating a fully packaged cloudron custom app, I decided to offer this to the cloudron community for free* from my VPSs.

                                          *standard "be nice folks" or I turn it off 😉

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                                          @girish - i'm really embarassed it took that long (9 months!!!)

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