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  • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

    Sounds tantalisingly close, thanks @doodlemania2 @girish ! 😄

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    @jdaviescoates said in Nextcloud Talk high-performance back-end:

    Sounds tantalisingly close, thanks @doodlemania2 @girish ! 😄

    In the meantime, Nextcloud 20 is going to make it easy to sign-up to a hosted Nextcloud High Performance Backend

    See:
    https://nextcloud.com/press/pr20201003-6/
    https://help.nextcloud.com/t/nextcloud-hub-20-debuts-dashboard-unifies-search-and-notifications-integrates-with-other-technologies/93838
    https://www.spreed.eu/contact-nextcloud-talk-high-performance-backend/

    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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      I've got a very early prototype of this working - it just needs some API fun from the Cloudron TURN feature sets. https://git.cloudron.io/doodlemania2/nthpbe

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      • doodlemania2D doodlemania2

        I've got a very early prototype of this working - it just needs some API fun from the Cloudron TURN feature sets. https://git.cloudron.io/doodlemania2/nthpbe

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        Exciting, thanks @doodlemania2!

        I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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        • doodlemania2D doodlemania2

          I've got a very early prototype of this working - it just needs some API fun from the Cloudron TURN feature sets. https://git.cloudron.io/doodlemania2/nthpbe

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          @doodlemania2 You might be interested in this: Nextcloud Talk High Performance Backend with Stun/Turnserver on Ubuntu with docker-compose

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            @doodlemania2 To continue the discussion from the other thread about the TURN server requirements.

            Per https://markus-blog.de/index.php/2020/07/30/how-to-install-nextcloud-talk-high-performance-backend-with-stun-turnserver-on-ubuntu/, the turnserver only requires a static-auth-secret and that is already set in existing turn server. I guess you are referring to the turn_rest_api_key in the janus configs? That secret is generated and shared between janus and nextcloud-spreed-signaling server from what I can understand. I think the existing turn service should work as-is.

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            • girishG girish

              @doodlemania2 To continue the discussion from the other thread about the TURN server requirements.

              Per https://markus-blog.de/index.php/2020/07/30/how-to-install-nextcloud-talk-high-performance-backend-with-stun-turnserver-on-ubuntu/, the turnserver only requires a static-auth-secret and that is already set in existing turn server. I guess you are referring to the turn_rest_api_key in the janus configs? That secret is generated and shared between janus and nextcloud-spreed-signaling server from what I can understand. I think the existing turn service should work as-is.

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              @girish oh no! i'm so sorry to have held us all up so long 😞
              okay - let me re-start my efforts and will study it more closely in addition to @oj 's and others suggestions to look at a prebuilt docker for inspiration.

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              • doodlemania2D doodlemania2

                @girish oh no! i'm so sorry to have held us all up so long 😞
                okay - let me re-start my efforts and will study it more closely in addition to @oj 's and others suggestions to look at a prebuilt docker for inspiration.

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                @doodlemania2 said in Nextcloud Talk high-performance back-end:

                okay - let me re-start my efforts and will study it more closely in addition to @oj 's and others suggestions to look at a prebuilt docker for inspiration.

                Did you manage to have another look? Would be so great to have this! 🙂

                I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                  @doodlemania2 said in Nextcloud Talk high-performance back-end:

                  okay - let me re-start my efforts and will study it more closely in addition to @oj 's and others suggestions to look at a prebuilt docker for inspiration.

                  Did you manage to have another look? Would be so great to have this! 🙂

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                  @jdaviescoates 😞 I haven't yet and I feel really bad about it - work has been all consuming of late. It's literally at the top of my list, just haven't had a chance! I promise more soon fast as I can!

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                  • doodlemania2D doodlemania2

                    @jdaviescoates 😞 I haven't yet and I feel really bad about it - work has been all consuming of late. It's literally at the top of my list, just haven't had a chance! I promise more soon fast as I can!

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                    @doodlemania2 don't feel bad about it! 🙂

                    But also, great, thanks!

                    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                    • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                      @doodlemania2 don't feel bad about it! 🙂

                      But also, great, thanks!

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                      @jdaviescoates I've been trying to get this to work but it just doesn't (based on the docker-compose example). I've reached out to the author of the blog to see if he can assist!

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                      • doodlemania2D doodlemania2

                        @jdaviescoates I've been trying to get this to work but it just doesn't (based on the docker-compose example). I've reached out to the author of the blog to see if he can assist!

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                        this is ready for testing - please send me a DM if you'd like to try it out!

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                        • doodlemania2D doodlemania2

                          this is ready for testing - please send me a DM if you'd like to try it out!

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                          @doodlemania2 great news! Is https://git.cloudron.io/doodlemania2/nthpbe still the latest repo because it says the commits are from 9 months ago.

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                            @doodlemania2 great news! Is https://git.cloudron.io/doodlemania2/nthpbe still the latest repo because it says the commits are from 9 months ago.

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                            @girish we can delete that repo actually - instead of creating a fully packaged cloudron custom app, I decided to offer this to the cloudron community for free* from my VPSs.

                            *standard "be nice folks" or I turn it off 😉

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                            • doodlemania2D doodlemania2

                              @girish we can delete that repo actually - instead of creating a fully packaged cloudron custom app, I decided to offer this to the cloudron community for free* from my VPSs.

                              *standard "be nice folks" or I turn it off 😉

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                              @girish - i'm really embarassed it took that long (9 months!!!)

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                              • doodlemania2D doodlemania2

                                @girish we can delete that repo actually - instead of creating a fully packaged cloudron custom app, I decided to offer this to the cloudron community for free* from my VPSs.

                                *standard "be nice folks" or I turn it off 😉

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                                @doodlemania2 that's very kind of you!

                                But it'd still be great to have an app too. Was it just too difficult to package or something?

                                Thanks for all your efforts! 🙂

                                I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                                  @doodlemania2 that's very kind of you!

                                  But it'd still be great to have an app too. Was it just too difficult to package or something?

                                  Thanks for all your efforts! 🙂

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                                  @jdaviescoates like comical... way too many moving parts

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                                  • doodlemania2D doodlemania2

                                    @jdaviescoates I've been trying to get this to work but it just doesn't (based on the docker-compose example). I've reached out to the author of the blog to see if he can assist!

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                                    @doodlemania2 Are you still sharing access to the Nextcloud Talk high-performance back-end that you have created? If so, how may I contact you to test it?

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                                    • coniunctioC coniunctio

                                      @doodlemania2 Are you still sharing access to the Nextcloud Talk high-performance back-end that you have created? If so, how may I contact you to test it?

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                                      @coniunctio Pinged you on DM!

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                                        I would realy love to see this happening as HPB is a gamechanger for bigger nextclouds. @doodlemania2 do you think that looking into https://github.com/deeztek/deeztek-docker/tree/master/Linux/nextcloud-spreed-signaling might help you with your packageing?

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                                        • M m-si

                                          I would realy love to see this happening as HPB is a gamechanger for bigger nextclouds. @doodlemania2 do you think that looking into https://github.com/deeztek/deeztek-docker/tree/master/Linux/nextcloud-spreed-signaling might help you with your packageing?

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                                          @m-si someone may find a way to package it, however, I've found it to be much easier to run a dedicated set of servers for NTHPBE. I offer it to clients for a pretty low fee in either US or DE if you are at all interested.

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