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Nextcloud Talk high-performance back-end

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  • doodlemania2D Offline
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    So, good news, I've got this working in the Cloudron Base image (I think?) using the signaling test client. My next step will be to wrap things up and start testing against live NextClouds. Currently, I'm thinking I'll disable ALL security since it will only be reachable by a local, on box Nextcloud. Open to suggestions on that.

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    • doodlemania2D doodlemania2

      So, good news, I've got this working in the Cloudron Base image (I think?) using the signaling test client. My next step will be to wrap things up and start testing against live NextClouds. Currently, I'm thinking I'll disable ALL security since it will only be reachable by a local, on box Nextcloud. Open to suggestions on that.

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      @doodlemania2 hm what do you mean by that? High performance backend needs to be accessible externally as the clients communicate with it via websocket.

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        #18

        Yeah, sorry, I meant that signaling would be externally accessible, but it appears nats and janus do not as signaling just calls them. Does that sound about right or am I WAY off?

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          #19

          Continuing to play with this. I think it's working, but I think more than just the signaling app needs access to the internet. I think the Janus bits need to be accessible as well. Currently, it's behind the docker net.

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            Going to build Janus and dependencies from source (which will take some time) as the backports are old. While doing this, @nebulon is working on an update to TURN/STUN to enable API access in CR itself! See: https://git.cloudron.io/cloudron/box/-/issues/710

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            • doodlemania2D doodlemania2

              Going to build Janus and dependencies from source (which will take some time) as the backports are old. While doing this, @nebulon is working on an update to TURN/STUN to enable API access in CR itself! See: https://git.cloudron.io/cloudron/box/-/issues/710

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              @doodlemania2 have you managed to make any further progress with getting this packaged? Thanks! 🙂

              I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                Hi @jdaviescoates - yep - we need to wait for an update to Box to support Auth API things on the Turn server. cc: @girish

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                  Yup, we will add it in Cloudron 6

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                  • girishG girish

                    Yup, we will add it in Cloudron 6

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                    Sounds tantalisingly close, thanks @doodlemania2 @girish ! 😄

                    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                    • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                      Sounds tantalisingly close, thanks @doodlemania2 @girish ! 😄

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                      #25

                      @jdaviescoates said in Nextcloud Talk high-performance back-end:

                      Sounds tantalisingly close, thanks @doodlemania2 @girish ! 😄

                      In the meantime, Nextcloud 20 is going to make it easy to sign-up to a hosted Nextcloud High Performance Backend

                      See:
                      https://nextcloud.com/press/pr20201003-6/
                      https://help.nextcloud.com/t/nextcloud-hub-20-debuts-dashboard-unifies-search-and-notifications-integrates-with-other-technologies/93838
                      https://www.spreed.eu/contact-nextcloud-talk-high-performance-backend/

                      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                        I've got a very early prototype of this working - it just needs some API fun from the Cloudron TURN feature sets. https://git.cloudron.io/doodlemania2/nthpbe

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                        • doodlemania2D doodlemania2

                          I've got a very early prototype of this working - it just needs some API fun from the Cloudron TURN feature sets. https://git.cloudron.io/doodlemania2/nthpbe

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                          Exciting, thanks @doodlemania2!

                          I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                          • doodlemania2D doodlemania2

                            I've got a very early prototype of this working - it just needs some API fun from the Cloudron TURN feature sets. https://git.cloudron.io/doodlemania2/nthpbe

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                            @doodlemania2 You might be interested in this: Nextcloud Talk High Performance Backend with Stun/Turnserver on Ubuntu with docker-compose

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                              @doodlemania2 To continue the discussion from the other thread about the TURN server requirements.

                              Per https://markus-blog.de/index.php/2020/07/30/how-to-install-nextcloud-talk-high-performance-backend-with-stun-turnserver-on-ubuntu/, the turnserver only requires a static-auth-secret and that is already set in existing turn server. I guess you are referring to the turn_rest_api_key in the janus configs? That secret is generated and shared between janus and nextcloud-spreed-signaling server from what I can understand. I think the existing turn service should work as-is.

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                                @doodlemania2 To continue the discussion from the other thread about the TURN server requirements.

                                Per https://markus-blog.de/index.php/2020/07/30/how-to-install-nextcloud-talk-high-performance-backend-with-stun-turnserver-on-ubuntu/, the turnserver only requires a static-auth-secret and that is already set in existing turn server. I guess you are referring to the turn_rest_api_key in the janus configs? That secret is generated and shared between janus and nextcloud-spreed-signaling server from what I can understand. I think the existing turn service should work as-is.

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                                @girish oh no! i'm so sorry to have held us all up so long 😞
                                okay - let me re-start my efforts and will study it more closely in addition to @oj 's and others suggestions to look at a prebuilt docker for inspiration.

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                                • doodlemania2D doodlemania2

                                  @girish oh no! i'm so sorry to have held us all up so long 😞
                                  okay - let me re-start my efforts and will study it more closely in addition to @oj 's and others suggestions to look at a prebuilt docker for inspiration.

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                                  @doodlemania2 said in Nextcloud Talk high-performance back-end:

                                  okay - let me re-start my efforts and will study it more closely in addition to @oj 's and others suggestions to look at a prebuilt docker for inspiration.

                                  Did you manage to have another look? Would be so great to have this! 🙂

                                  I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                    @doodlemania2 said in Nextcloud Talk high-performance back-end:

                                    okay - let me re-start my efforts and will study it more closely in addition to @oj 's and others suggestions to look at a prebuilt docker for inspiration.

                                    Did you manage to have another look? Would be so great to have this! 🙂

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                                    @jdaviescoates 😞 I haven't yet and I feel really bad about it - work has been all consuming of late. It's literally at the top of my list, just haven't had a chance! I promise more soon fast as I can!

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                                    • doodlemania2D doodlemania2

                                      @jdaviescoates 😞 I haven't yet and I feel really bad about it - work has been all consuming of late. It's literally at the top of my list, just haven't had a chance! I promise more soon fast as I can!

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                                      @doodlemania2 don't feel bad about it! 🙂

                                      But also, great, thanks!

                                      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                      • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                                        @doodlemania2 don't feel bad about it! 🙂

                                        But also, great, thanks!

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                                        @jdaviescoates I've been trying to get this to work but it just doesn't (based on the docker-compose example). I've reached out to the author of the blog to see if he can assist!

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                                        • doodlemania2D doodlemania2

                                          @jdaviescoates I've been trying to get this to work but it just doesn't (based on the docker-compose example). I've reached out to the author of the blog to see if he can assist!

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                                          this is ready for testing - please send me a DM if you'd like to try it out!

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