Issue with NextCloud and OnlyOffice

[marcusquinn]

Might not help if you have specific reasons for OnlyOffice but I spent some time comparing to Collabora and then uninstalled OnlyOffice.

Initial attraction of only office was the UI seemed a little more likely to be familiar to users, although the latest Collabora with tabbed ribbon bards as an option nulled that difference.

I noticed OnlyOffice seemed to have more restrictions on concurrent usage and higher costs if you did need to move to licensed.

Then there's Collabora being a webified LibreOffice, so the UI consistency between those two is good for onboarding users to both with familiarity.

Don't know if that helps but with Collabora as an option, I've not needed OnlyOffice, or any other Office for that matter, since.

[jdaviescoates]

@marcusquinn thanks, I was wondering why you'd opted for Collabora over OnlyOffice since I saw this section on your https://brandlight.org/ website:

We saved over £15k a month with Brandlight apps & services.

Switching from:

Lastpass to Bitwarden
Jira to GitLab
Confluence to WikiJS
Slack to Rocket.Chat
Freshdesk to Freescout
Amazon AWS to Hetzner
Microsoft Azure to Contabo
Gmail to Cloudron & Roundcube
Google Drive to Nextcloud
Google Apps to Collabora Online
Microsoft Office to Libre Office
Zoom to Kopano Meet
Microsoft Dynamics to Odoo ERP & CRM
Zapier to Integromat
Codeless Platforms to n8n.io
Power BI to Redash
Trello to Wekan
Monday to Restyaboard
Survey Monkey to Lime Survey
Campaign Monitor to Mautic & Elastic Email

[jdaviescoates]

I've previously found (and read) that Collabora is a lot slower when collaboratively editing because it does stuff on the server end that OnlyOffice does locally, but perhaps that is better these days?

[avatar1024]

@jdaviescoates I've found Collabora much better in terms of performance with recent versions (even though I am still dubious about their design choice when it comes to server / client processing). It's got also much less restrictions and prefer the default compatibility with odfs (the development seem to be faster these days too). I have stopped using OnlyOffice for quite a few month now and I don't regret it.

[henry000]

@girish here some further updates: on Firefox, I can open up Word documents just fine, no issues now: I remember Word docs did not work previously when I had "editor updated" dialog box. It's only with spreadsheets that I am still currently getting the hanging "loading document" progressbar that goes on forever. No idea what's happening here.

[marcusquinn]

@jdaviescoates Yup, that's almost true, in that some of those service I've yet to cancel. Shocking how the costs added up over the years when I had Sys Admins that continually chose the most expensive options and when service price-hiked over the years at the same time as we needed more users.

That site is a WIP but the overall aim is to promote sustainable service pricing expectations for all online services, some we've been doing for years and some will be new based on Cloudron amazingness.

Got a lot more interesting things to come and will share as they are ready.

[girish]

@henry000 Ah, I never opened spreadsheets. I only tested it with documents. Maybe we should report the issue upstream, because I don't think this is Cloudron packaging related.

[henry000]

@girish - I am totally stumped as to what's going on. I now can open all documents (word and spreadsheets) just fine in Firefox.

There's nothing changed. The only thing I can think of is, maybe in I just needed to let the progress-bars run forever in Firefox. But doesn't explain why it worked on my Chrome.

Anyway, the issue is gone for me now.

[girish]

@henry000 AI!

[nebulon]

Maybe your OnlyOffice instance was updated now to the version released recently?

[henry000]

Hi @nebulon, issue happened after I updated to the latest versions few days ago (version info in a previous reply). Don't think there're any updates since. To be sure, I just checked my versions again, still the same:

ONLYOFFICE 6.1.0
Community Document Server 0.1.8
Nextcloud 20.0.2
Packaged version 4.8.1