@nebulon said in Error logs from NextCloud: investigate what the Cloudron Nextcloud package misses from the Nextcloud AIO bundle, to somehow get the highperformance backend for Nextcloud Talk optionally to work Might this help for the Nextcloud Talk High Performance Backend bit? It's just that bit from AIO bundle https://github.com/nextcloud-snap/nextcloud-snap/wiki/How-to-configure-talk-HPB-with-Docker But I guess for Cloudron it could possibly be simplified further due to the fact Cloudron already has a TURN server (and maybe some of the other parts too? ) @leemuljadi until we've got a solution on Cloudron (which I hope gets some dev attention soon) check out https://github.com/sunweaver/nextcloud-high-performance-backend-setup (via @andreasdueren's post in the Nextcloud Talk high performance backend App Wishlst thread) which seems like the simplest method of getting a Talk HPB set-up in the meantime.

ok thanks @nebulon i write to support.

@jdaviescoates said in How to Import / synchronize a group of Cloudron's users to Nextcloud ?: @andreasdueren said in How to Import / synchronize a group of Cloudron's users to Nextcloud ?: @osobo Pretty sure that's hardcoded. But you can simply bypass the screen by running occ config:app:set --value=0 user_oidc allow_multiple_user_backends in the terminal I was wondering exactly what that'd do and so I gave it a go... In short: If you're logged into your Cloudron in the same browser session -> completely bypasses the need to login and you just arrive into Nextcloud - great! If you're not logged into your Cloudron you end up at a Cloudron login screen a bit like this: [image: 1744729329602-5be9d6a4-bd94-4517-afb8-2fba4c9cce5c-image.png] One downside: preview links in Signal/ WhatsApp etc become OpenID Connect Error : [image: 1745351200591-23f4db5b-f90e-43ab-a17e-5dd71f400ae6-image.png]

@RaV001 well, good luck! I hope the backup works and you manage to regain access to your files!

@madrush yes you can bypass the login form completely: https://forum.cloudron.io/post/105215

Those settings migrated to 'User directory', for anyone wondering how to setup OpenID on Cloudron for external use. And yeah - I've been searching in the docs first.

@Neiluj In our experience with the Cloudron platform, a single instance is not suitable for such a large user base for a particular app. Nextcloud itself is a beast. So many different use cases. So many so-called apps. With third party apps with specific purposes. And potential TB of data to backup. If your use case has different branch offices with up to, say, 50 users, Nextcloud on Cloudron with Nextcloud federation and one Cloudron instance per branch office... that seems doable. If you need a central Nextcloud instance with all functions that only scale upwards, choose a dedicated Nextcloud instance with support from Nextcloud partners. Otherwise: One of our customers has a use case where Nextcloud on Cloudron with up to 400 users is not a problem. But this is a special use case with users who do not use Nextcloud with all its functions. So my answer is: It depends.

@joseph Thank you!

Just updated the last working version to the newest package. Everything is fine. I guess the cause was the strange group provisioning confusion I caused. Smooth ride so far.

@jdaviescoates Yep, I read about it and it made sense. Problem was that I could not even get to the NC OIDC app config due to missing admin rights. thankfully the occ command made the native admin group reappear. From a logical point of view provisioning admin rights to a certain OICD group should be an option. This could be a field in the OIDC plugin where we could define a group name that is treated as admin and grants native NC admin rights to users within.

I am able to solve it by keeping no values (blank) in manager option for my admin account.

Aha! I guess I should've actually looked into my Nextcloud logs before Just had a look and saw a load of errors with this: "userAgent":"Evolution/3.52.3" - that's not a phone, that's my laptop! I've just deleted and re-added my Nextcloud account via Ubuntu's Online Accounts (had to create an app password for it). Hopefully that'll finally be the end of this nonsense!

@LoudLemur look up their IP and ping it?

@jdaviescoates Everywhere, basically. Would it be possible to setup Nextcloud so that people could inhabit and use it without ever seeing each other's emails? If you are on a nextcloud and you look at the Users list, even as a regular user, you will probably see everybody's email listed there. There might be some environments where you would not wish participants to have their emails disclosed to the rest of the nextcloud.

I reported a similar but different bug over 2 years ago and it's still not been addressed https://github.com/nextcloud/calendar/issues/4893

Also: independent of group assignments, NC doesn't even show a user's own files (but it probably should, shouldn't it?)

So, I've started disabling/enabling NextCloud apps in the cloud. After I disabled "Antivirus for files" app, Notes sync started working. Completely random thought...

The new update fixes this