Just updated the last working version to the newest package. Everything is fine. I guess the cause was the strange group provisioning confusion I caused. Smooth ride so far.

I guess Nextcloud initiates the OpenID login redirection automatically in that case then. Since the user still has a login session with the OpenID provider (the Cloudron) it will auto-login. Since the logout of Nextcloud itself is from the Nextcloud session, the OpenID provider has no clue about a logout event, so I don't think this is currently possible.

@osobo Pretty sure that's hardcoded. But you can simply bypass the screen by running occ config:app:set --value=0 user_oidc allow_multiple_user_backends in the terminal

@jdaviescoates Yep, I read about it and it made sense. Problem was that I could not even get to the NC OIDC app config due to missing admin rights. thankfully the occ command made the native admin group reappear. From a logical point of view provisioning admin rights to a certain OICD group should be an option. This could be a field in the OIDC plugin where we could define a group name that is treated as admin and grants native NC admin rights to users within.

I am also seeing this now.

I am able to solve it by keeping no values (blank) in manager option for my admin account.

Aha! I guess I should've actually looked into my Nextcloud logs before Just had a look and saw a load of errors with this: "userAgent":"Evolution/3.52.3" - that's not a phone, that's my laptop! I've just deleted and re-added my Nextcloud account via Ubuntu's Online Accounts (had to create an app password for it). Hopefully that'll finally be the end of this nonsense!

@LoudLemur look up their IP and ping it?

@jdaviescoates Everywhere, basically. Would it be possible to setup Nextcloud so that people could inhabit and use it without ever seeing each other's emails? If you are on a nextcloud and you look at the Users list, even as a regular user, you will probably see everybody's email listed there. There might be some environments where you would not wish participants to have their emails disclosed to the rest of the nextcloud.

I reported a similar but different bug over 2 years ago and it's still not been addressed https://github.com/nextcloud/calendar/issues/4893

Also: independent of group assignments, NC doesn't even show a user's own files (but it probably should, shouldn't it?)

So, I've started disabling/enabling NextCloud apps in the cloud. After I disabled "Antivirus for files" app, Notes sync started working. Completely random thought...

The new update fixes this

@BrutalBirdie Yes, you can. And FYI - all previously existing app passwords no longer work after OIDC migration. I can create new ones.

@ntnsndr said in Best practices or guide for Nextcloud 5.0.4?: On that point, I am seeing an issue: Despite being an admin account, after the update, under the Accounts preferences, for most accounts on NextCloud I am getting this message: "You do not have permissions to see the details of this account." (For some reason, the admin account and one additional user account, the most recently created one, are editable.) In particular, this means I am unable to add or remove accounts from groups, which is a major problem. Does anyone have ideas about what could be causing this? Yes I had the same issue. The problem is, that the other user in question needs to log in once. Otherwise they are all in some weird intermediate state. I used impersonation to do that.

@sponch said in Problems with new NC 31.01: when uninstalling Talk app it appears again after Nextcloud restart. . you can disable turn . https://docs.cloudron.io/apps/#turn

@thibault after you gave the memory, you have to initiate a restore from the latest backup. Not clear from your message, if you did that.

FWIW I'm using this Featured OnlyOffice app to connect to the Cloudron OnlyOffice app. https://apps.nextcloud.com/apps/onlyoffice https://github.com/ONLYOFFICE/onlyoffice-nextcloud I'm not sure what the purpose of the document server app is but it has very low ratings so I'm not surprised it's caused issues: https://apps.nextcloud.com/apps/documentserver_community https://github.com/nextcloud/documentserver_community

@girish Cool! Something weird must have happened as there isn't 5.0.4 either