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Need a reliable data storage and backup application, nextcloud is not it

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  • P privsec

    @murgero How would you download the backups to browse through them? I have encryption enabled on the app so I believe this would prevent that, right?

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    @privsec Maybe odrive.com will help if you want to multi-cloud for redundancy.

    syncthing.net sounds like a decent Cloudron solution too, although not tried it yet.

    cyberduck.io or mountainduck.io with backblaze.com/b2 could also be an option.

    I like the free tier with sync.com too, trust them more than the bigger names in that space. Decent mobile app too.

    Main priority right now though is recovering those photos, feeling your pain on that.

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    • P privsec

      @murgero How would you download the backups to browse through them? I have encryption enabled on the app so I believe this would prevent that, right?

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      @privsec Is encryption enabled for the cloudron backups or inside nextcloud?

      For my photo stuff, I use emby and it's uploader is quite reliable. I used to use nextcloud but the uploader had too many bugs, couldn't make it upload existing photos on the phone etc.

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        @privsec Is encryption enabled for the cloudron backups or inside nextcloud?

        For my photo stuff, I use emby and it's uploader is quite reliable. I used to use nextcloud but the uploader had too many bugs, couldn't make it upload existing photos on the phone etc.

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        @girish Encryption is enabled on both.

        Ill have to take a look at Emby

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        • P privsec

          @girish Encryption is enabled on both.

          Ill have to take a look at Emby

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          @privsec You can download the backups via SFTP to the host server. I do not remember where sadly.

          You can also decrypt the files if you power up the app again and run occ encryption:decrypt-all [username] then download the files from the apps directory on the host server under /home/yellowtent/appsdata/{GUID-of-app}

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          • P privsec

            @murgero How would you download the backups to browse through them? I have encryption enabled on the app so I believe this would prevent that, right?

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            @privsec said in Need a reliable data storage and backup application, nextcloud is not it:

            @murgero How would you download the backups to browse through them? I have encryption enabled on the app so I believe this would prevent that, right?

            It sounds more like an encryption and not a corruption issues. Have you changed / switched off/on Nextcloud encryption and / or changed the password?

            I remember I had a similar issue a few years ago when I switched off encryption for all NC users as admin but the files were all there and just had to be decrypted correctly.

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              @privsec said in Need a reliable data storage and backup application, nextcloud is not it:

              @murgero How would you download the backups to browse through them? I have encryption enabled on the app so I believe this would prevent that, right?

              It sounds more like an encryption and not a corruption issues. Have you changed / switched off/on Nextcloud encryption and / or changed the password?

              I remember I had a similar issue a few years ago when I switched off encryption for all NC users as admin but the files were all there and just had to be decrypted correctly.

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              @necrevistonnezr At initialization of the app I set up all the settings and encryption, and then I added the mobile app and then set up mobile uploads.

              I havent change password's or disabled and re-enabled encryption either.

              I do not know why this occurred, it is REALLY frustrating.

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              • P privsec

                @necrevistonnezr At initialization of the app I set up all the settings and encryption, and then I added the mobile app and then set up mobile uploads.

                I havent change password's or disabled and re-enabled encryption either.

                I do not know why this occurred, it is REALLY frustrating.

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                @privsec Looks like this is due to an issue with the desktop app and having server side encryption turned on. They have a Beta release available 3.1.5 that was released today that should address many issues.

                However this requires server version 21. Currently Cloudron has 20.0.8.1 packaged.

                @girish any timeline when server 21 will be pushed out?

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                • P privsec

                  @privsec Looks like this is due to an issue with the desktop app and having server side encryption turned on. They have a Beta release available 3.1.5 that was released today that should address many issues.

                  However this requires server version 21. Currently Cloudron has 20.0.8.1 packaged.

                  @girish any timeline when server 21 will be pushed out?

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                  @privsec Whenever 21.0.1 is out but @nebulon can confirm since he maintains the app.

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                    @privsec Whenever 21.0.1 is out but @nebulon can confirm since he maintains the app.

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                    @girish Thank you.

                    You guys do excellent work.

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                      @girish Thank you.

                      You guys do excellent work.

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                      @privsec yes, based on previous experience I think it makes sense to wait for the first patch release. Up till that we will of course release further patch releases for v20 mostly for security fixes.

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