Backup Strategy Advice

[jdaviescoates]

@ruihildt said in Backup Strategy Advice:

@jdaviescoates Are you using Ubuntu 20?

No. 18.04. I figured why change what's not broken

I'll likely use Ubuntu 20 the next time I do a fresh install on Cloudron, but am keeping my existing Cloudron's that I installed on 18.04 on 18.04.

[lucidfox]

@p44 i just followed the one in the cloudron docs (and also the hetzner docs).

cloudron:
//<server>/<remote_folder> /backups_cifs cifs uid=yellowtent,gid=yellowtent,user=<user>,pass=<pass>,iocharset=utf8,x-systemd.automount 0 0

hetzner:
//<username>.your-storagebox.de/backup /mnt/backup-server cifs iocharset=utf8,rw,credentials=/etc/backup-credentials.txt,uid=<system account>,gid=<system group>,file_mode=0660,dir_mode=0770 0 0

[subven]

@lucidfox said in Backup Strategy Advice:

so i switched to another option that i've seen mentioned in the forums here, which is to backup to a second cloudron using minio. and i'm happy to report that it's working fine. using an alphavps storage vps it's actually even cheaper, and it's quite convenient to have a further backup if needed.

I also did this and it's working fine. I choose a storage VPS at alphavps with 768MB RAM, 256GB HDD and 1TB bandwidth for 25€ per year. Had to resize the root partition and change the free RAM check at the Cloudron setup to be able to install Cloudron. After that I disabled local backups and installed Minio. Backup speed with rsync is okay for small setups and bandwidth should be suffisant since we're doing incremental backups.

PS: be aware that they freeze your server at bandwidth overuse

Are there any bandwidth overusage fees?
No! We understand how frustrating can bandwidth overusage fees be and we've taken a different approach, to ensure our flat and predictable pricing - when you come close to running out of bandwidth, we will send a warning emails. Should you not respond and upgrade the server, we'll suspend it automatically, until the bandwidth counter is reset.

[p44]

@lucidfox said in Backup Strategy Advice:

@p44 i just followed the one in the cloudron docs (and also the hetzner docs).

cloudron:
//<server>/<remote_folder> /backups_cifs cifs uid=yellowtent,gid=yellowtent,user=<user>,pass=<pass>,iocharset=utf8,x-systemd.automount 0 0

hetzner:
//<username>.your-storagebox.de/backup /mnt/backup-server cifs iocharset=utf8,rw,credentials=/etc/backup-credentials.txt,uid=<system account>,gid=<system group>,file_mode=0660,dir_mode=0770 0 0

Which one do you use? These above are standards strings. First one on the top should work.

Where is located source datacenter?

[lucidfox]

@p44 i don't use it anymore. i've switched to a storage vps on alphavps, with a minio backup.

[p44]

@lucidfox Ok ! Hope it is working fine

[lucidfox]

@p44 thanks, it works great.

[scooke]

@subven I'm not seeing the Minio app in the regular store... could you refresh my memory as to how to get it please?

[subven]

@scooke actually it is in the normal store. No beta or special tricks required. You need at least Cloudron 5.3.0 to install it.

[scooke]

@subven Huh, so it is. That was weird for me, I scrolled up and down and even typed in the name, before asking you here. But now I can see it easily and clearly. Strange. Thank you!

[ethanxrosen]

I think it probably makes more sense for most people who are using a storage VPS to forego installing Cloudron+Minio and instead just connect to their VPS with SSHFS.

If you use Minio's S3 api, there's a big disadvantage of no hard-links with rsync right? So total backup storage balloons if you want anything but a barebones retention policy. In my case the difference was around 5TB . On the other hand setting up a secure SSH server is almost easier than a second cloudron (get a firewall going and auto update with unattended-upgrades). Not sure how people's experience is with backup stability over SSHFS these days.

Saw that ServaRica had some good prices competitive with Hetzner / alphaVPS.

[robi]

Interesting, haven't looked at ServaRica before, they seem to have daily expanding storage plans that start at 500GB of SAN +1 GB daily.

They also have an unlimited storage plan that does +3 GB daily.

[jdaviescoates]

@d19dotca might be interested in ServaRICA given they are in Canada

[scooke]

@robi I've been using Servarica since 2020 and have no complaints. I have two of those older Polar Bear servers, and in fact a newer "Black Friday 2024 - UniFied - UniFied FAT" on which I'm running a BTCPayServer due to having 8GB of ram.