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DKIM and DMARC for built-in outgoing mail

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    girish
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    Also, Email -> Status. Are all the check marks green?

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      Also, Email -> Status. Are all the check marks green?

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      clouddaz
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      @girish, yes they are all green.

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        girish
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        @clouddaz If you can send a test mail to test@cloudron.io (you can do this from email -> status -> send test mail), I can inspect the headers.

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          I've just sent it, but don't be surprised if it turns up in your spam folder. Thanks in advance for checking.

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            And I just noticed:

            Feb 14 01:02:24 [INFO] [-] [core] [outbound] Sending email as a transaction
            Feb 14 01:02:24 [NOTICE] [-] [dkim_sign] skipped: no private key for lily.dmnw.net
            Feb 14 01:02:24 [INFO] [-] [core] [outbound] Processing delivery for domain: cloudron.io
            Feb 14 01:02:24 EACCES: permission denied, open '/app/haraka-config/config/dkim/lily.dmnw.net/private'
            
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              @clouddaz That does indeed seem like the problem.

              On the server: Go to the directory /home/yellowtent/boxdata/mail/dkim/<domain>. It should have the public/private DKIM keys. Are they present? If they are present, then chown -R yellowtent:yellowtent /home/yellowtent/boxdata/mail/dkim and then go to services -> mail and restart it.

              If they are not present, let me know, we have to see why they are not present (they are created at domain addition time).

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                Yes both DKIM keys are present. chown and mail restart were completed but still no DKIM or DMARC signing. This is the first domain (hostname) not a subsequent added domain, if that helps.

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                  @clouddaz Can you give us SSH access so I can debug the issue? Support -> Enable Remote support. Thanks!

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                    I have the same issue on my cloudron (standard plan). All checkmarks at SMTP Status are green. I use Mailjet (free account) at the moment to get around this issue.

                    2019-02-26T21:12:32.000Z EACCES: permission denied, open '/app/haraka-config/config/dkim/*****.******/private'
                    2019-02-26T21:12:32.000Z [NOTICE] [-] [dkim_sign] skipped: no private key for *****.******
                    
                    cloudron@h2812623:/home/yellowtent/boxdata/mail/dkim/*****.******$ ll
                    total 20
                    drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Jan  9 07:29 ./
                    drwxr-xr-x 3 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Dez  8 23:13 ../
                    -rw------- 1 yellowtent yellowtent  891 Dez  8 23:13 private
                    -rw-r--r-- 1 yellowtent yellowtent  272 Dez  8 23:13 public
                    -rw-r--r-- 1 yellowtent yellowtent    8 Dez  8 23:13 selector
                    

                    @girish please let us know if you figure out what causes this behavior.

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                      I noticed that some folders maybe have wrong permissions. "cloudron" is the user I used to install Cloudron (with sudo) on the server.
                      2019-02-28 22_24_43-root@h2812623_ _home_yellowtent_boxdata_mail.png
                      Most of the folders/files under /home/yellowtent are owned by yellowtent, some by root and a small percentage is owned by cloudron. Could this result in the error we see?

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                        This is fixed in 3.5.4 now.

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                          I experienced the same issue today on a fresh new installation v4.0.0:

                          2019-05-10T11:54:20.000Z [INFO] [-] [core] [outbound] Sending email as a transaction
                          2019-05-10T11:54:20.000Z EACCES: permission denied, open '/app/haraka-config/config/dkim/mydomain.net/private'
                          2019-05-10T11:54:20.000Z [NOTICE] [-] [dkim_sign] skipped: no private key for mydomain.net
                          2019-05-10T11:54:20.000Z [INFO] [-] [core] [outbound] Processing delivery for domain: mail-tester.com
                          

                          so it seems that this bug is still out there...

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                            I experienced the same issue today on a fresh new installation v4.0.0:

                            2019-05-10T11:54:20.000Z [INFO] [-] [core] [outbound] Sending email as a transaction
                            2019-05-10T11:54:20.000Z EACCES: permission denied, open '/app/haraka-config/config/dkim/mydomain.net/private'
                            2019-05-10T11:54:20.000Z [NOTICE] [-] [dkim_sign] skipped: no private key for mydomain.net
                            2019-05-10T11:54:20.000Z [INFO] [-] [core] [outbound] Processing delivery for domain: mail-tester.com
                            

                            so it seems that this bug is still out there...

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                            murgero
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                            @ruben 4.0.0 is out? how do I install? my cloudron checks for updates but says it's up to date??

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                              I experienced the same issue today on a fresh new installation v4.0.0:

                              2019-05-10T11:54:20.000Z [INFO] [-] [core] [outbound] Sending email as a transaction
                              2019-05-10T11:54:20.000Z EACCES: permission denied, open '/app/haraka-config/config/dkim/mydomain.net/private'
                              2019-05-10T11:54:20.000Z [NOTICE] [-] [dkim_sign] skipped: no private key for mydomain.net
                              2019-05-10T11:54:20.000Z [INFO] [-] [core] [outbound] Processing delivery for domain: mail-tester.com
                              

                              so it seems that this bug is still out there...

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                              subven
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                              @ruben did you checked if the file exists? What are the file permissions/owner/group? Does the file contains a certificate? With cloudron 4.X.X you have the ability to re-setup DNS (maybe this fixes the issue?). What about renewing all certs (--> Domain)?

                              @murgero cloudron is at v4.0.3 at the moment. Do you use a custom hoster image? I'm on a netcup image and the message popped up today. You're off topic by the way...

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                                @ruben did you checked if the file exists? What are the file permissions/owner/group? Does the file contains a certificate? With cloudron 4.X.X you have the ability to re-setup DNS (maybe this fixes the issue?). What about renewing all certs (--> Domain)?

                                @murgero cloudron is at v4.0.3 at the moment. Do you use a custom hoster image? I'm on a netcup image and the message popped up today. You're off topic by the way...

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                                  @ruben 4.0.0 is out? how do I install? my cloudron checks for updates but says it's up to date??

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                                  @subven yes, the file exists. These are the permissions:

                                  drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 May 10 10:33 ./
                                  drwxr-xr-x 4 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 May 10 11:27 ../
                                  -rw------- 1 yellowtent yellowtent  887 May 10 10:33 private
                                  -rw-r--r-- 1 yellowtent yellowtent  272 May 10 10:33 public
                                  -rw-r--r-- 1 yellowtent yellowtent    8 May 10 10:33 selector
                                  

                                  The DKIM-signing works after a chmod 777 private but I don't think that 's a sustainable solution.

                                  The 'renew all certs'-button does not seem te renew my certificates.
                                  My DNS-setup is 'wildcard', so I don't think it 's possible to re-setup dns?

                                  I just added an extra domain (with cloudron 4.0.3) and it results in the same permissions:

                                  drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 May 17 06:54 ./
                                  drwxr-xr-x 5 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 May 17 06:54 ../
                                  -rw------- 1 yellowtent yellowtent  887 May 17 06:54 private
                                  -rw-r--r-- 1 yellowtent yellowtent  272 May 17 06:54 public
                                  -rw-r--r-- 1 yellowtent yellowtent    8 May 17 06:54 selector
                                  
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                                    @clouddaz @ruben @subven Any of you still facing this issue? I would love to get to the bottom of this since I thought this got fixed, but clearly hasn't.

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                                      doomilation
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                                      @girish Hi, I can confirm that this issue is still there with 2 domains.
                                      Unfortunately I didn't check after a fresh install and just 1 domain.

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                                        @clouddaz @ruben @subven Any of you still facing this issue? I would love to get to the bottom of this since I thought this got fixed, but clearly hasn't.

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                                        ruben
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                                        @girish I had already deleted my test-setup; so I just set up a new one from scratch at scaleway. It results in the same errors and permissions as above.

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                                          @ruben Thanks. Can you tell me which DNS provider you are using? Let me try to reproduce the bug with that backend.

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