Free cloud computing hosting
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@christiaan in my experience AWS is free ... but only for a year ... and assuming you sign up with 'clean' email not known to them ... and you don't trip into chargeable services.
If you want free, you are probably destined for constant changes of providers and platforms. Which is a hassle.
It might be worth resigning yourself to paid, but find a provider which is not part of the cartel pricing (AWS, GoogleCkous, Azure, DigitalOcean, Linode, Exoscale etc). Hetzner and Netcup have rock bottom VPS pricing, but a basic entry-level shared server should do what you mention.
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I can recommend Time4VPS
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IMO if possible I'd just build a PC and run it from home if its a personal cloudron.
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Thanks everyone. Running it on my own machine is an interesting thought.
I have a pretty reliable 1000/400 Mbps internet connection and a Mac mini that I could use, although I'd like to keeping run macOS on it for various reasons. I can run macOS as main OS and Ubuntu with something like WMware Fusion, with Cloudron controlling it, right?
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@christiaan Absolutely, you should be able to run Cloudron on a VM there.
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@christiaan Yes, but performance might suffer a little. Depends if you're using it actively or it is sitting in the corner.
VMware is very memory hungry and the older Mac mini might not have a lot. Depends if you bought it with extra or installed extra.
Personally I much prefer Virtualbox to Vmware, but I'm splitting hairs.I have a "mini PC" : small form box, smaller than Mav Mini footprint (but bit taller). I just need a native install of Ubuntu on it. Wasn't expensive (£200-300). No keyboard mouse or screen except during setup. Just sits in the corner and I remote connect if I need to do something on it.
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@timconsidine yeah. Bare metal will be better imo. Perhaps virtualbox has less overhead?
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@atrilahiji any VM technology on laptop/desktop is very cludgey in my own personal experience. I think minimum needed to make it work properly is 32Gb or 64Gb ram on device. Even with 16Gb it struggles (or I am just not patient enough).
@christiaan in your shoes, I would flatten the MacMini, or repartition it to have a small Mac OS boot (in case you ever need to go back to it) and make a bigger partition for something like Ubuntu. Then boot into the Ubuntu partition when powering on, and leave it running in that. Install Coudron on that. Performance will be much better.
Saves buying a different box as I suggested was option in earlier post.
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I can throw together a parts list as well if you want suggestions. Availability and pricing will of course vary based on location.
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I've considered hosting locally on my Mac mini but want to avoid all the potential administration that this involves any time there's a problem. We currently host our email with Gandi so I'm considering using them instead. Do you think one of these tiers is enough to host calendars, address book (via Nextcloud or Radicale) + very simple low traffic website?
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@christiaan even 2GB of RAM is a bit tight. IMO you don't need a ton of power or storage but both Nextcloud and Wordpress gobble RAM
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@christiaan radicale is probably fine. If your only big app is Nextcloud you can give the 2GB model a shot and see how it works. If you're doing static sites and radicale you can probably get away with the 1gb version but that cuts it pretty close.
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@christiaan if you determined to go with gandi and are budget constrained, then I understand.
But for that budget you can get more RAM from other providers, if you have flexibility not to be gandi
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@timconsidine great, okay thanks for that.
I ended up exploring Gandi's SOGo implementation, which comes with their email hosting, and it all seems to work well for calendars and address book now. It didn't when we first signed up.
So that's kind of solved my problem really!
