ERPNext - cost-effective ERP solution
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@dcher I had looked into ERPNext 2-3 years ago. That project has come a long way! Looks so polished.
@girish The feature set is crazy for something that can run on a $20/mo VPS. I manage a commercial/industrial services business out of California and have replaced our proprietary accounting, dispatching, CRM and project management software with ERPNext. All of that cost around $1,000/mo
Here's a list of modules available:
- Accounting
- Asset management
- Customer relationship management (CRM)
- Human resource management (HRM)
- Manufacturing
- Point of sale (POS)
- Project management
- Purchasing
- Sales management
- Warehouse management system
- Student Information system
- Hospital Information system
- Agriculture Management
- Nonprofit Organization
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@girish The feature set is crazy for something that can run on a $20/mo VPS. I manage a commercial/industrial services business out of California and have replaced our proprietary accounting, dispatching, CRM and project management software with ERPNext. All of that cost around $1,000/mo
Here's a list of modules available:
- Accounting
- Asset management
- Customer relationship management (CRM)
- Human resource management (HRM)
- Manufacturing
- Point of sale (POS)
- Project management
- Purchasing
- Sales management
- Warehouse management system
- Student Information system
- Hospital Information system
- Agriculture Management
- Nonprofit Organization
@dcher Having reviewed this software and data-structure many times, I concur - it's a solid framework.
The UI isn't as feature-rich as Odoo and it lacks the community plug-ins - but it has a RAD environment for customising any of the data-structures. The demo doesn't give you access to that but it is very well thought out.
To be fair, most users wouldn't have any issues on a €6/month Hetzner instance. Maybe push to €12/month with Cloudron and a bunch of other apps.
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Same question here - anything that we can do to help with this?
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I've changed my mind on this: I'm able to do everything that ERPNext or Odoo does with EspoCRM.
Espo is both faster and, as I've found from 20 years in business, better that the data revolves around the Contacts & Calendars.
ERP systems tend to revolve around the accounts, which is fine. But creating accounting systems with CRM is easier than creating good CRM with accounting systems.
I'll share what I've done with it all at some point because I understand accounting system design isn't everyone's understanding, but I'm moving as much as possible to less apps is better for user management, time-efficiency and less integration needs when the database is common. Hence, picking one and just using the others for inspiration.
ERPNext & Odoo are great - they just have limitations and annoyance that EspoCRM doesn't.
Calendars, Emails, Portals, Role-Based Permissions are all the killer features for me. Get those right and the rest is easier.
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ERPNext is a free and open-source integrated Enterprise Resource Planning (ERP) software developed by Frappé Technologies Pvt. Ltd. and is built on MariaDB database system using a Python based server-side framework.
There are a few packaged versions on Docker Hub already, so it should be just a matter of reading a dockerfile and massaging it into the standard Cloudron packaging format. :thinking:
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I've changed my mind on this: I'm able to do everything that ERPNext or Odoo does with EspoCRM.
Espo is both faster and, as I've found from 20 years in business, better that the data revolves around the Contacts & Calendars.
ERP systems tend to revolve around the accounts, which is fine. But creating accounting systems with CRM is easier than creating good CRM with accounting systems.
I'll share what I've done with it all at some point because I understand accounting system design isn't everyone's understanding, but I'm moving as much as possible to less apps is better for user management, time-efficiency and less integration needs when the database is common. Hence, picking one and just using the others for inspiration.
ERPNext & Odoo are great - they just have limitations and annoyance that EspoCRM doesn't.
Calendars, Emails, Portals, Role-Based Permissions are all the killer features for me. Get those right and the rest is easier.
@marcusquinn I am not sure if I am missing something, but out of the box, EspoCRM seems to quite barebones with just core CRM modules, without many features such as Quotes, Invoices, etc that are available as a paid Extension Packs (Annual subscription plans).
So, to replicate Odoo or ERPNext Self Hosted Open Source versions involves annual payments right?
Please correct me if am wrong, but while Odoo's most attractive features are unavailable in the open source community version, ERPNext seems to be the real deal.
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@marcusquinn I am not sure if I am missing something, but out of the box, EspoCRM seems to quite barebones with just core CRM modules, without many features such as Quotes, Invoices, etc that are available as a paid Extension Packs (Annual subscription plans).
So, to replicate Odoo or ERPNext Self Hosted Open Source versions involves annual payments right?
Please correct me if am wrong, but while Odoo's most attractive features are unavailable in the open source community version, ERPNext seems to be the real deal.
@jagan yeah, I've good experience with all 3 and highly recommend Espo, although it might depend on your time and expectations.
I'm actually going to recreate the Sales Pack stuff for Espo as I think their way can be improved.
Not knowing how urgent your needs are, if they are very urgent I'd recommend Odoo paid and hosted.
If you have a little time and prefer open-source control, Espo is great.
Anything the others do can be recreated in Espo, you just have to be organised with any CRM/ERP system.
DM me if you want access to my GitLab work on Espo, I just need your gitlab.com handle to add you to repos.
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There are a ton of great updates in ERPNext today and the Update rate is from beginning Version 13 quiet awsome... Please can you please please please consider adding ERPNext? This would be such a massiv impact in the Usecase of Cloudron for me...
The service for the Frappeengine kills me so hard and Coudron is soo easy... i would fund some coins if this could speed up this topic!!! -
Hmmmm why is the reaction to my question closing one thread and send the question Zons Thread where i get the answer „buy the expansions“.
Why does a paying member not get an answer? Is this just some kids toy here? Then sorry I got the intention wrong and I will not try to improve anything here!
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Hmmmm why is the reaction to my question closing one thread and send the question Zons Thread where i get the answer „buy the expansions“.
Why does a paying member not get an answer? Is this just some kids toy here? Then sorry I got the intention wrong and I will not try to improve anything here!
@fmoeller said in ERPNext - cost-effective ERP solution:
Hmmmm why is the reaction to my question closing one thread and send the question Zons Thread where i get the answer „buy the expansions“.
Why does a paying member not get an answer? Is this just some kids toy here? Then sorry I got the intention wrong and I will not try to improve anything here!Que?
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Hmmmm why is the reaction to my question closing one thread and send the question Zons Thread where i get the answer „buy the expansions“.
Why does a paying member not get an answer? Is this just some kids toy here? Then sorry I got the intention wrong and I will not try to improve anything here!
@fmoeller I don't think anyone said no to anything, you just have to convince someone that packages apps to package this one. Someone that can't live without it would be the best ally, as they will be invested in keeping it updated too.
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There are a ton of great updates in ERPNext today and the Update rate is from beginning Version 13 quiet awsome... Please can you please please please consider adding ERPNext? This would be such a massiv impact in the Usecase of Cloudron for me...
The service for the Frappeengine kills me so hard and Coudron is soo easy... i would fund some coins if this could speed up this topic!!!@fmoeller I think you misunderstood. ERPNext is currently not packaged, so we try to keep all the ERPNext related discussions in this single thread. This page is simply just a place to express interest in wanting this app on Cloudron and having all interested parties in the same page (no pun intended).
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I also would LOVE to see ERPnext on Cloudron.
Please, please package the app! It would also increase my usecase for cloudron by a an incredible amount! -
I would love to have ERPNext on Cloudron!
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Bumping this, unfortunately, espocrm is not an option for me since I need either Zapier or n8n integration
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Bumping this, unfortunately, espocrm is not an option for me since I need either Zapier or n8n integration
@andreasdueren said in ERPNext - cost-effective ERP solution:
unfortunately, espocrm is not an option for me since I need either Zapier or n8n integration
EspoCRM has web hooks you should be able to feed into n8n https://docs.espocrm.com/administration/webhooks/
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@andreasdueren said in ERPNext - cost-effective ERP solution:
unfortunately, espocrm is not an option for me since I need either Zapier or n8n integration
EspoCRM has web hooks you should be able to feed into n8n https://docs.espocrm.com/administration/webhooks/
@jdaviescoates Thank, I'll look into if that's sufficient
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@girish The feature set is crazy for something that can run on a $20/mo VPS. I manage a commercial/industrial services business out of California and have replaced our proprietary accounting, dispatching, CRM and project management software with ERPNext. All of that cost around $1,000/mo
Here's a list of modules available:
- Accounting
- Asset management
- Customer relationship management (CRM)
- Human resource management (HRM)
- Manufacturing
- Point of sale (POS)
- Project management
- Purchasing
- Sales management
- Warehouse management system
- Student Information system
- Hospital Information system
- Agriculture Management
- Nonprofit Organization
@dcher The Gantt Charts look nice.
Also consider Odoo Community Edition and its Freedom focused fork, Flectra, both of which have been requested in the App Wish section of the forum.
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@nebulon @girish ERPNext is looking good...I'd love to see it added officially as a Cloudron app! (I've decided to move our business to ERPNext.) Maybe they'd support adding an "Install with Cloudron" option on their GitHub page? That could bring more business customers to Cloudron I expect.
Quick notes:
- Their official docker image seems mature enough. https://github.com/frappe/frappe_docker
- They also have a 1-click droplet app on Digital Ocean. (But I'd rather manage it through Cloudron...because Cloudron is beautiful and awesome.)
- There is an ERPNext integration for n8n.
