Penpot - Design Freedom for Teams
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Hi!! We are super honoured to be considered a cloudron package!!
You already packaged our other product, Taiga, by the way.Cheers!
@diacritica Honestly loving Taiga. Excellent work!
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Super helpful too, these guys. I found this on Reddit, poked around on their repository but couldn't find the info for self-hosting, asked about it and just a short while later they replied! https://github.com/penpot/penpot/blob/develop/docs/00-Getting-Started.md
Yes, this does look pretty good. They share tuts here:
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This is on my radar for packaging, though at the moment I'm holding off until the codebase is more stable, unless consensus build that packaging sooner is a good idea
@jimcavoli said in Penpot - Design Freedom for Teams:
I'm holding off until the codebase is more stable, unless consensus build that packaging sooner is a good idea
It's now on 1.3 alpha:
https://github.com/penpot/penpot/releases/tag/1.3.0-alphaBut I guess by "more stable" you mean "not alpha"?
Personally I think it'd be fine to package sooner and just publish and unstable. But I would say that as I like new toys and am not a packager myself
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@jimcavoli said in Penpot - Design Freedom for Teams:
I'm holding off until the codebase is more stable, unless consensus build that packaging sooner is a good idea
It's now on 1.3 alpha:
https://github.com/penpot/penpot/releases/tag/1.3.0-alphaBut I guess by "more stable" you mean "not alpha"?
Personally I think it'd be fine to package sooner and just publish and unstable. But I would say that as I like new toys and am not a packager myself
@jdaviescoates Yes, "not alpha" is very much the thing I was talking about
Certainly nothing wrong with getting it packaged unstable and so on while it's still under more active development, but my experience with how much of the critical components of an app that can break the building of a package are much more likely in alpha-land than in beta-land at least. YMMV, and words are made up with different meanings to different teams/people, especially in this one, but that's where my brain's at presently.
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@jdaviescoates Yes, "not alpha" is very much the thing I was talking about
Certainly nothing wrong with getting it packaged unstable and so on while it's still under more active development, but my experience with how much of the critical components of an app that can break the building of a package are much more likely in alpha-land than in beta-land at least. YMMV, and words are made up with different meanings to different teams/people, especially in this one, but that's where my brain's at presently.
It's clearly more than a typical alpha in terms of stability, but they still have some missing features that are needed to make it useful for all (like custom fonts).
At this point, they encourage users to use their hosted version, so they get better logs, etc. I agree with that logic, and they have for now my trust to do the right thing, based on Taiga experience.
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It's clearly more than a typical alpha in terms of stability, but they still have some missing features that are needed to make it useful for all (like custom fonts).
At this point, they encourage users to use their hosted version, so they get better logs, etc. I agree with that logic, and they have for now my trust to do the right thing, based on Taiga experience.
@ruihildt Yeah the moment I realized it was the same team behind Taiga I was on board. I don't mind a hosted version but I do always try to minimize what I have hosted that isn't on my cloudron dashboard. Makes it easier to keep track of things. Curious to see where this project goes though.
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@jdaviescoates Yes, "not alpha" is very much the thing I was talking about
Certainly nothing wrong with getting it packaged unstable and so on while it's still under more active development, but my experience with how much of the critical components of an app that can break the building of a package are much more likely in alpha-land than in beta-land at least. YMMV, and words are made up with different meanings to different teams/people, especially in this one, but that's where my brain's at presently.
Hi @jimcavoli is there any movement on packaging Penpot for Cloudron? Is there anything you need, could do with help on?
I'm a UX designer and I use Penpot for my work, and I run my own Cloudron hosted services.
If there's anything I can do to help in the packaging, please let me know.
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I feel that there's more great FOSS webapps being created than there are already on Cloudron.
How do we make sure gems like this get packaged in a reasonable time?
I'm gonna be dead before you get anywhere near half-way through that Wishlist.
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I feel that there's more great FOSS webapps being created than there are already on Cloudron.
How do we make sure gems like this get packaged in a reasonable time?
I'm gonna be dead before you get anywhere near half-way through that Wishlist.
@marcusquinn Cloudron should offer one month free for each app packaged and published then see how many apps you would get
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@marcusquinn Cloudron should offer one month free for each app packaged and published then see how many apps you would get
@adeelahmad nice idea .... although Cloudron Q&A would be swamped with stuff that doesn't work fully
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@adeelahmad nice idea .... although Cloudron Q&A would be swamped with stuff that doesn't work fully
@timconsidine right, but it could be that apps published by other folks can be released as alpha releases which could be tested and votted for normal releases by other people.
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@marcusquinn Cloudron should offer one month free for each app packaged and published then see how many apps you would get
@adeelahmad said in Penpot - Design Freedom for Teams:
Cloudron should offer one month free for each app packaged
I think the work involved in packaging has significantly more value than $15/30 so potential quality problems aside I'm not sure how much of an incentive that'd be.
Easier to just use referral codes to refer a few people (I've not had to pay anything for my Cloudron for a while because I've referred so many people!
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@nj wonderful! This makes me very happy! If you'd like some help testing I'm very happy to.
Btw at our Open Source Design devroom at Fosdem this year Clara from Penpot will be talking about how they gather and implement user feedback.
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@nj said in Penpot - Design Freedom for Teams:
I will be attempting to package this app this weekend. I will post updates in this thread.
Are we there yet?
@ei8fdb said in Penpot - Design Freedom for Teams:
@nj said in Penpot - Design Freedom for Teams:
I will be attempting to package this app this weekend. I will post updates in this thread.
Are we there yet?
Not yet.
Had to re-package Keycloak to support the latest version that broke everything. I'm into penpot rn.Founder / Coder โข My Apps
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@ei8fdb said in Penpot - Design Freedom for Teams:
@nj said in Penpot - Design Freedom for Teams:
I will be attempting to package this app this weekend. I will post updates in this thread.
Are we there yet?
Not yet.
Had to re-package Keycloak to support the latest version that broke everything. I'm into penpot rn.@nj May I humbly ask that env variables to enable and disable both registration and the Demo User be included please? I've been trying this out on Caprover, and this is an ongoing request on that platform. So far we can turn off Registration, but the Demo User option remains. Yikes. Thank you again!
