Jitsi Meet

[hutzacharus]

Hi @nebulon and @girish,
Is the jitsi-meet app still in the backlog and are there any more concrete plans with it?
Did I get it right that a TURN-server is already implemented as an integrated cloudron service?
Would it be possible to install jitsi-meet with docker manually next to cloudron and its apps (and use the TURN-server coming with cloudron, if it does)?
(I actually came here by looking for a (hassle free) way to get nextcloud and jitsi-meet running on a single vServer/VPS. - Do you think this is possible in general, at all?)

Thanks!

[jdaviescoates]

@hutzacharus said in Jitsi Meet:

Did I get it right that a TURN-server is already implemented as an integrated cloudron service?

Yes, but I think it still needs some work to get it right/ more usable, see this post by @girish https://forum.cloudron.io/post/23347

@hutzacharus said in Jitsi Meet:

Would it be possible to install jitsi-meet with docker manually next to cloudron and its apps (and use the TURN-server coming with cloudron, if it does)?

It's generally not a good idea to install other things alongside Cloudron.

@hutzacharus said in Jitsi Meet:

(I actually came here by looking for a (hassle free) way to get nextcloud and jitsi-meet running on a single vServer/VPS. - Do you think this is possible in general, at all?)

That'll be easy once Jitsi has been packaged, and it's still marked as a Work in Progress https://forum.cloudron.io/tags/wip

I'm not sure of the current status, but it doesn't look like there have been any related commits for 4 months:

https://git.cloudron.io/search?search=jitsi

[hutzacharus]

Thanks a lot, @jdaviescoates for the reply and the advice regarding separate installations!
I also saw the activity apparently halted at the jitis-app repo, that's why I was asking. But judging from the cross-linked bbb-thread, there seems to be work still going on in the direction of this app, so this is good news.

However, here is a (possibly naive) thought (without any deeper understanding of the matter):
Since the main problem seems to be to get a TURN server running on the same instance as the other cloudron apps, and since a TURN-server is optional anyway, wouldn't it be possible to include the jitsi-meet app into the cloudron app repository without a TURN server and create an additional repository, say "cloudron_dedicated" or "cloudron_exclusive", with a collection of apps that can only be installed exclusively on a separate/dedicated server? This app repo could include, besides a TURN-server app, also BigBlueButton (which according to their docs also requires a dedicated server to run on) and possibly other apps as well. Does this make any sense?

[jdaviescoates]

@hutzacharus said in Jitsi Meet:

Since the main problem seems to be to get a TURN server running on the same instance as the other cloudron apps

I'm not sure, but I don't think that is the main problem.

There is already a TURN addon running on the same instance. As I understand it it's just the the TURN addon needs to be better to support more ports, hence making it more usable.

@hutzacharus said in Jitsi Meet:

and since a TURN-server is optional anyway

It's not really optionally if you want to talk to people on other network (which is normally that case for the vast majority of video calls).

@hutzacharus said in Jitsi Meet:

wouldn't it be possible to include the jitsi-meet app into the cloudron app repository without a TURN server

I could be wrong, but I don't think it is TURN server issues that are holding up the packaging of jitsi (or BBB), just that is a complicated app that is hard to package (and in the case of BBB there isn't even a stable version that'll run on Ubuntu 18.04 yet).

@hutzacharus said in Jitsi Meet:

create an additional repository, say "cloudron_dedicated" or "cloudron_exclusive", with a collection of apps that can only be installed exclusively on a separate/dedicated server? This app repo could include, besides a TURN-server app, also BigBlueButton (which according to their docs also requires a dedicated server to run on) and possibly other apps as well. Does this make any sense?

I'm not sure it does!

At present there is no way for different instances Cloudrons on to connect and play nicely together, although as I understand it there are plans afoot for that (and yeah, for BBB especially it sounds like that would make sense because they recommend a dedicated server for that - although I've also heard of people running it fine on a VPS)

[girish]

@hutzacharus said in Jitsi Meet:

Is the jitsi-meet app still in the backlog and are there any more concrete plans with it?

It's in our plans. In fact, for many months now but we have been swamped with other things

[brynjar]

@girish Jitsi is an absolute must, please. It will make Cloudron perfect!

[drpaneas]

I am using jitsi as well, if I could host this via cloudron that would be amazing.

[Mastadamus]

Any updates on jitsi meet?

[LoudLemur]

Jitsi Meet is an excellent suggestion and there has been an awful lot of extra work put into it lately. There is also:

https://jitsi.org/jitsi-videobridge/
https://github.com/jitsi/jitsi-videobridge

Jitsi Nightlies
https://download.jitsi.org/unstable/

Jitsi Docker
https://jitsi.github.io/handbook/docs/devops-guide/devops-guide-docker

[chetbaker]

really interested in testing a self-hosted version of jitsi as well

[privsec]

Any luck on a jitsi image as of yet?

[Grienauer]

@girish +1 from me. it is a pain to host this currently separately thx!

[girish]

Just wanted to share the news that @Benoit has kindly agreed to sponsor part of the packaging effort of Jitsi. So, we will start working on this next week.

[jdaviescoates]

@girish fantastic news! Many thanks @Benoit!

[LoudLemur]

@jdaviescoates Merci beaucoup, Benoit!

[derin]

@girish this is awesome news!! I've been waiting for this

[potemkin_ai]

@BENOIT, merci bien, indeed!

[scooke]

Good thing I recently upgrade my VPS!! Go @Benoit!

[jeau]

@girish @Benoit merci beaucoup !

[Grienauer]

@girish thank you @Benoit!