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  • murgeroM Offline
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    murgero
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    wrote on last edited by
    #23

    I gave this a shot in the LAMP app as well and have replaced my need for Nextcloud with Filerun.

    Since I don't have a need for any of Nextcloud's apps using Filerun just makes more sense. Filerun is compatible with the nextcloud mobile and desktop apps for file sync as well!

    So far it's much faster for that too - however there are no Nextcloud apps / plugins. (But I don't need them, like I said above so it's not a big deal to me.)

    If you need Nextcloud but only need to do file sync, and don't need apps, Filerun is really worthy of recommendation and consideration.

    Not sure how to package this for cloudron, but in the LAMP app it works as expected.

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    • murgeroM murgero

      I gave this a shot in the LAMP app as well and have replaced my need for Nextcloud with Filerun.

      Since I don't have a need for any of Nextcloud's apps using Filerun just makes more sense. Filerun is compatible with the nextcloud mobile and desktop apps for file sync as well!

      So far it's much faster for that too - however there are no Nextcloud apps / plugins. (But I don't need them, like I said above so it's not a big deal to me.)

      If you need Nextcloud but only need to do file sync, and don't need apps, Filerun is really worthy of recommendation and consideration.

      Not sure how to package this for cloudron, but in the LAMP app it works as expected.

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      wrote on last edited by
      #24

      @murgero said in Filerun - Self-Hosted File Sync and Sharing:

      Filerun is compatible with the nextcloud mobile and desktop apps for file sync as well!

      How so? What do you do in the app?

      Conscious tech

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      • robiR robi

        @murgero said in Filerun - Self-Hosted File Sync and Sharing:

        Filerun is compatible with the nextcloud mobile and desktop apps for file sync as well!

        How so? What do you do in the app?

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        murgero
        App Dev
        wrote on last edited by
        #25

        @robi The webdav server that filerun uses is compatible with Nextcloud's desktop and mobile apps (as in the sync tool for nextcloud, not the apps you install in nextcloud)

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        • murgeroM murgero

          @robi The webdav server that filerun uses is compatible with Nextcloud's desktop and mobile apps (as in the sync tool for nextcloud, not the apps you install in nextcloud)

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          wrote on last edited by
          #26

          @murgero Got it, thanks, had a feeling that was webdav related!

          That also means it should be easily mountable as a network drive in Windows/MacOS.

          Conscious tech

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          • robiR robi

            @murgero Got it, thanks, had a feeling that was webdav related!

            That also means it should be easily mountable as a network drive in Windows/MacOS.

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            #27

            @robi Hopefully easier than Nextcloud for WebDav mounting too, as I still have an issue that makes it useless with Windows:

            • https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/6514/windows-can-connect-to-nextcloud-webdav-but-then-loses-the-connection-and-can-t-reconnect

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            • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

              @robi Hopefully easier than Nextcloud for WebDav mounting too, as I still have an issue that makes it useless with Windows:

              • https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/6514/windows-can-connect-to-nextcloud-webdav-but-then-loses-the-connection-and-can-t-reconnect
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              #28

              @marcusquinn oh right, try it out! If you don't have Filerun installed, I can offer mine for you to test with. Ping me off forum.

              Conscious tech

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              • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                @robi Hopefully easier than Nextcloud for WebDav mounting too, as I still have an issue that makes it useless with Windows:

                • https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/6514/windows-can-connect-to-nextcloud-webdav-but-then-loses-the-connection-and-can-t-reconnect
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                murgero
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                #29

                @marcusquinn So far it has not given me that issue (webdav issue you are having) - seems fine so far.

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                ~ Professional Nerd. Freelance Programmer. ~

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                  #30

                  Does the OnlyOffice plugin work on the free version of Filerun?

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                  • WiseMetalheadW WiseMetalhead

                    Does the OnlyOffice plugin work on the free version of Filerun?

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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #31

                    @WiseMetalhead No. Filerun does not support Nextcloud plugins

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                    • murgeroM murgero

                      @WiseMetalhead No. Filerun does not support Nextcloud plugins

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                      wrote on last edited by
                      #32

                      @murgero said in Filerun - Self-Hosted File Sync and Sharing:

                      @WiseMetalhead No. Filerun does not support Nextcloud plugins

                      I'm sorry, I meant the integrations built into Filerun.
                      Screenshot_20220314-165938_Chrome.jpg

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                      • WiseMetalheadW WiseMetalhead

                        @murgero said in Filerun - Self-Hosted File Sync and Sharing:

                        @WiseMetalhead No. Filerun does not support Nextcloud plugins

                        I'm sorry, I meant the integrations built into Filerun.
                        Screenshot_20220314-165938_Chrome.jpg

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                        hakunamatata
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                        #33

                        @WiseMetalhead It is working fine on my instance.

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                        • WiseMetalheadW WiseMetalhead

                          @murgero said in Filerun - Self-Hosted File Sync and Sharing:

                          @WiseMetalhead No. Filerun does not support Nextcloud plugins

                          I'm sorry, I meant the integrations built into Filerun.
                          Screenshot_20220314-165938_Chrome.jpg

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                          murgero
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                          wrote on last edited by
                          #34

                          @WiseMetalhead Oh I didn't even see those! I'd assume it works if you can install it

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                            #35

                            Damn, this app is fast, even as a web app.... 🙂

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                            • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

                              Damn, this app is fast, even as a web app.... 🙂

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                              #36

                              @necrevistonnezr Yes, I noticed the same. Very snappy and a joy to use compared to similar interfaces. 😹

                              I wondered if the dev used some neat tricks more devs could learn to use too.

                              Conscious tech

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                              • robiR robi

                                @necrevistonnezr Yes, I noticed the same. Very snappy and a joy to use compared to similar interfaces. 😹

                                I wondered if the dev used some neat tricks more devs could learn to use too.

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                                wrote on last edited by scooke
                                #37

                                @robi Compared to other similar apps, I've always appreciated that I could easily install this one* because it is basically just a php app run on Apache. So many others have extra steps or software, like RoR for Redbooth (or whatever it was before), weird installs like using Dazzle with Sparkleshare, Pydio and it's own executables, NodeJS or Java apps which I could never get to run, or even a few whose names I forget that use Python (about which I would always, of course, forget about activating the env). The day I discovered FileRun, gave it a try, and it installed and ran was one of the happiest days of my life, superceded only when I discovered Cloudron.

                                (*That said, I also like ResourceSpace though it's slower than FileRun.)

                                A life lived in fear is a life half-lived

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                                • scookeS scooke

                                  @robi Compared to other similar apps, I've always appreciated that I could easily install this one* because it is basically just a php app run on Apache. So many others have extra steps or software, like RoR for Redbooth (or whatever it was before), weird installs like using Dazzle with Sparkleshare, Pydio and it's own executables, NodeJS or Java apps which I could never get to run, or even a few whose names I forget that use Python (about which I would always, of course, forget about activating the env). The day I discovered FileRun, gave it a try, and it installed and ran was one of the happiest days of my life, superceded only when I discovered Cloudron.

                                  (*That said, I also like ResourceSpace though it's slower than FileRun.)

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                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #38

                                  @scooke YES, no hours of fiddling and troubleshooting, it's just done and works. Easy peasy.

                                  Conscious tech

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                                    wrote on last edited by necrevistonnezr
                                    #39

                                    I'm seriously considering the switch from Nextcloud to Filerun. I'm trying to find more info on the security side of things. From what I can gather from the documentation and the Changelog

                                    In general,

                                    • 2FA is supported out of the box,
                                    • each WebDAV App gets a separate password that can be revoked,
                                    • except for the superuser account, all accounts are protected against brute force attack

                                    https://filerun.com/changelog lists a

                                    Security audit by Christian Poeschl and Tobias Braeutigam, from "syntegris information solutions GmbH".

                                    but it wasn't published, it seems.

                                    From the documentation: https://docs.filerun.com/doku.php?id=secure&rev=1641578988

                                    Securing the FileRun installation
                                    Once you have FileRun running, it is strongly recommended to follow these steps in order to secure it:

                                    • The default user account, superuser, is the only account not protected against brute force login attacks, so it is very important that you set a password that cannot be guessed by a computer. Set a long password, containing also uppercase letters, digits and symbols.
                                    • Accessing the FileRun installation via SSL|SSL/HTTPS, instead of plain HTTP will strongly increases your data security. Get a free SSL certificate for your server here: https://letsencrypt.org
                                    • Make sure session.cookie_httponly is set to On, in your server's PHP configuration file, for increased security against cross-site-scripting attacks.
                                    • Update the configured MySQL user account and remove the ALTER and DROP privileges. (You might need to add these back before installing any FileRun update.)
                                    • If you are on a shared hosting service, make sure the permissions of the FileRun application files do not allow PHP (or any other web server application) to make changes to them. Make an exception for the system/data folder and its contents, where FileRun needs to be able to make changes.
                                    • Make sure display_errors is set to Off, in your server's PHP configuration file.
                                    • Register your FileRun installation, from the control panel, under Software licensing, to be able to keep the installation secure and up to date!
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                                    • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

                                      I'm seriously considering the switch from Nextcloud to Filerun. I'm trying to find more info on the security side of things. From what I can gather from the documentation and the Changelog

                                      In general,

                                      • 2FA is supported out of the box,
                                      • each WebDAV App gets a separate password that can be revoked,
                                      • except for the superuser account, all accounts are protected against brute force attack

                                      https://filerun.com/changelog lists a

                                      Security audit by Christian Poeschl and Tobias Braeutigam, from "syntegris information solutions GmbH".

                                      but it wasn't published, it seems.

                                      From the documentation: https://docs.filerun.com/doku.php?id=secure&rev=1641578988

                                      Securing the FileRun installation
                                      Once you have FileRun running, it is strongly recommended to follow these steps in order to secure it:

                                      • The default user account, superuser, is the only account not protected against brute force login attacks, so it is very important that you set a password that cannot be guessed by a computer. Set a long password, containing also uppercase letters, digits and symbols.
                                      • Accessing the FileRun installation via SSL|SSL/HTTPS, instead of plain HTTP will strongly increases your data security. Get a free SSL certificate for your server here: https://letsencrypt.org
                                      • Make sure session.cookie_httponly is set to On, in your server's PHP configuration file, for increased security against cross-site-scripting attacks.
                                      • Update the configured MySQL user account and remove the ALTER and DROP privileges. (You might need to add these back before installing any FileRun update.)
                                      • If you are on a shared hosting service, make sure the permissions of the FileRun application files do not allow PHP (or any other web server application) to make changes to them. Make an exception for the system/data folder and its contents, where FileRun needs to be able to make changes.
                                      • Make sure display_errors is set to Off, in your server's PHP configuration file.
                                      • Register your FileRun installation, from the control panel, under Software licensing, to be able to keep the installation secure and up to date!
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                                      murgero
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                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #40

                                      @necrevistonnezr It's been working very well for me thus far. Security seems decent - 2fa definitely helps with that. WebDAV is nice too as nextcloud apps can sync with that. It's also much faster since it doesn't have many apps/plugins installed from the get-go.

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                                      https://urgero.org
                                      ~ Professional Nerd. Freelance Programmer. ~

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                                        #41

                                        BTW if you had non-critical errors displayed by the Nextcloud desktop client, see https://feedback.filerun.com/en/communities/1/topics/1501-nextcloud-macos-client-sync-errors-a-different-e-tag-to-proceed-was-received

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                                          Filerun does seem to have continuing development. I don't think people have abandoned the project. Maybe we can resussitate it?

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