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Listmonk - High performance, self-hosted newsletter and mailing list manager

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  • micmcM micmc

    @jodumont said in Listmonk - High performance, self-hosted newsletter and mailing list manager:

    yeah this software sound very promising to replace MailTrain and even Mautic

    Well, while the app looks great and sounds promising, we are however very far from replacing either Mautic or MailTrain with this.

    It looks more like a nice interface for an app in the like of https://mailist.app/ .
    Listmonk does not provide (yet?) with marketing automation features, you cannot even segment your lists, etc. AFAIK.

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    @micmc For handling newsletters, being simple could be considered a feature.

    You don't always need Mautic advanced features, with bells and whistle. (I'm obviously biased, working in the privacy field)

    There's a working demo here: https://demo.listmonk.app/

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    • ruihildtR ruihildt

      @micmc For handling newsletters, being simple could be considered a feature.

      You don't always need Mautic advanced features, with bells and whistle. (I'm obviously biased, working in the privacy field)

      There's a working demo here: https://demo.listmonk.app/

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      @ruihildt : I agree there is room to have "simple" app like Listmonk for some use cases, and Mautic for those who need more features.

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      • ruihildtR ruihildt

        @micmc For handling newsletters, being simple could be considered a feature.

        You don't always need Mautic advanced features, with bells and whistle. (I'm obviously biased, working in the privacy field)

        There's a working demo here: https://demo.listmonk.app/

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        @ruihildt said :

        You don't always need Mautic advanced features,

        @timconsidine said

        I agree there is room to have "simple" app like Listmonk

        Indeed and I agree too.
        I was just pushing away some confusion that could have occurred to @JOduMonT who seemed to believe Listmonk could replace Mautic and Mailtrain. It cannot, at least not yet.

        ME ... while the app looks great and sounds promising, we are however very far from replacing either Mautic or MailTrain with this.

        Of course, when he mentioned that I went and had already checked the facts, while trying the demo version, before I post the result. 😉

        Ignorance is not an excuse anymore!
        https://AutomateKit.com

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        • robiR robi

          https://listmonk.app/

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          @robi Looks good and easy to handle!

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          • micmcM micmc

            @ruihildt said :

            You don't always need Mautic advanced features,

            @timconsidine said

            I agree there is room to have "simple" app like Listmonk

            Indeed and I agree too.
            I was just pushing away some confusion that could have occurred to @JOduMonT who seemed to believe Listmonk could replace Mautic and Mailtrain. It cannot, at least not yet.

            ME ... while the app looks great and sounds promising, we are however very far from replacing either Mautic or MailTrain with this.

            Of course, when he mentioned that I went and had already checked the facts, while trying the demo version, before I post the result. 😉

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            @micmc said in Listmonk - High performance, self-hosted newsletter and mailing list manager:

            Indeed and I agree too.
            I was just pushing away some confusion that could have occurred to @JOduMonT who seemed to believe Listmonk could replace Mautic and Mailtrain. It cannot, at least not yet.

            It's all about knowing the need
            and we could see an abyss of them between managing a mailing list with an email client and Mautic.

            It is sad that Mautic is recognized as a SPAM machine (Mailling List) by most of EMail servers and clients, this is mainly why I'm looking forward for a new solution.

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            • JOduMonTJ JOduMonT

              @micmc said in Listmonk - High performance, self-hosted newsletter and mailing list manager:

              Indeed and I agree too.
              I was just pushing away some confusion that could have occurred to @JOduMonT who seemed to believe Listmonk could replace Mautic and Mailtrain. It cannot, at least not yet.

              It's all about knowing the need
              and we could see an abyss of them between managing a mailing list with an email client and Mautic.

              It is sad that Mautic is recognized as a SPAM machine (Mailling List) by most of EMail servers and clients, this is mainly why I'm looking forward for a new solution.

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              @JOduMonT said in Listmonk - High performance, self-hosted newsletter and mailing list manager:

              It is sad that Mautic is recognized as a SPAM machine (Mailling List) by most of EMail servers and clients, this is mainly why I'm looking forward for a new solution.

              Huh, I was not aware of that do you have any reference to this fact?
              And, if this is the case have you had any chance to check to see if it is possible to counter Mautic's footprint assuming that it's how Mautic is "recognized" by mail servers and clients?
              Some powerful email marketing platform I know can do so... 😉

              Ignorance is not an excuse anymore!
              https://AutomateKit.com

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              • micmcM micmc

                @JOduMonT said in Listmonk - High performance, self-hosted newsletter and mailing list manager:

                It is sad that Mautic is recognized as a SPAM machine (Mailling List) by most of EMail servers and clients, this is mainly why I'm looking forward for a new solution.

                Huh, I was not aware of that do you have any reference to this fact?
                And, if this is the case have you had any chance to check to see if it is possible to counter Mautic's footprint assuming that it's how Mautic is "recognized" by mail servers and clients?
                Some powerful email marketing platform I know can do so... 😉

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                @micmc said in Listmonk - High performance, self-hosted newsletter and mailing list manager:

                footprint assuming that it's how Mautic is "recognized" by mail servers and clients?

                Install Mautic and send message to a gmail it will tagged as Marketing,
                It's because the mail contain a tracker

                https://forum.mautic.org/t/mautic-lands-in-promotions-or-spam-folders-seems-to-be-impossible-to-tweak-any-idea/16675

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                • JOduMonTJ JOduMonT

                  @micmc said in Listmonk - High performance, self-hosted newsletter and mailing list manager:

                  footprint assuming that it's how Mautic is "recognized" by mail servers and clients?

                  Install Mautic and send message to a gmail it will tagged as Marketing,
                  It's because the mail contain a tracker

                  https://forum.mautic.org/t/mautic-lands-in-promotions-or-spam-folders-seems-to-be-impossible-to-tweak-any-idea/16675

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                  @JOduMonT
                  We use a mail proxy for all outgoing mail and most of our customer want to have a tracker, but they don't go to spam/marketing on Gmail.

                  Probably is only the header generated by mautic that make it recognize as marketing.

                  Matteo. R.
                  Founder and Tech-Support Manager.
                  MooCloud MSP
                  Swiss Managed Service Provider

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                  • MooCloud_MattM MooCloud_Matt

                    @JOduMonT
                    We use a mail proxy for all outgoing mail and most of our customer want to have a tracker, but they don't go to spam/marketing on Gmail.

                    Probably is only the header generated by mautic that make it recognize as marketing.

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                    @MooCloud_Matt said in Listmonk - High performance, self-hosted newsletter and mailing list manager:

                    Probably is only the header generated by mautic that make it recognize as marketing.

                    Yes or maybe I pushed a button which I shouldnt because it seams to be an exception in both forum 😉
                    It was also before Aquia acquired the software

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                      I have this working now at https://git.cloudron.io/cloudron/listmonk-app . Published as unstable.

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                        I have this working now at https://git.cloudron.io/cloudron/listmonk-app . Published as unstable.

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                        @girish excellent news ! well done and thank you.

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                        • timconsidineT timconsidine

                          @girish excellent news ! well done and thank you.

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                          @timconsidine I was investigating this when trying to update mailtrain to v2, but decided to try this out pretty quick. It works very well, the mail template editor is quite modern we well. Only missing some proper authentication.

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