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Is there a way to create email addresses without creating Cloudron users?

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  • E eddowding

    Just chipping in here @girish to point out this this is a good area for attention, because this process is a bit .. byzantine.

    Also even if app access is restricted, if a user goes to Dropdown > Email, they can see all the hosted domains.

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    @eddowding I have a hard time to understand where this last message fits into the thread, can you explain a bit more?

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    • nebulonN nebulon

      @eddowding I have a hard time to understand where this last message fits into the thread, can you explain a bit more?

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      @nebulon sure.

      Creating email accounts for users on Cloudron is not intuitive, simple, or straightforward and involves far too much admin and processing hacking in order to make it work.

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      • E eddowding

        @nebulon sure.

        Creating email accounts for users on Cloudron is not intuitive, simple, or straightforward and involves far too much admin and processing hacking in order to make it work.

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        @eddowding So, you would prefer a unified view instead of selecting the domain first? In any case, would be great if you can create a separate topic with your suggestion since this topic was about cloudron user+mailboxes initially. Would be good to hear!

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          @eddowding So, you would prefer a unified view instead of selecting the domain first? In any case, would be great if you can create a separate topic with your suggestion since this topic was about cloudron user+mailboxes initially. Would be good to hear!

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          @girish There were two topics, both related to the create user / email flow.

          As @imc67 outlined on 1st Feb, it takes 7 steps in 3 parts to create an email address for a user. I hope we could all agree that that's too complicated.

          I could perhaps have reported the data privacy flaw separately. However as a paid user I really hate it when companies I pay for a service make ME do their error reporting work.

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            For some reason I am still not fully following what this is about, especially the "data privacy flaw" is very much unclear. For the mailbox creation, are there any suggestions on how to improve the flow? Is this mostly about that a Cloudron user has to exist, who owns the mailbox?

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            • nebulonN nebulon

              For some reason I am still not fully following what this is about, especially the "data privacy flaw" is very much unclear. For the mailbox creation, are there any suggestions on how to improve the flow? Is this mostly about that a Cloudron user has to exist, who owns the mailbox?

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              @nebulon said in Is there a way to create email addresses without creating Cloudron users?:

              the "data privacy flaw" is very much unclear.

              I think that's just this:

              @eddowding said in Is there a way to create email addresses without creating Cloudron users?:

              Also even if app access is restricted, if a user goes to Dropdown > Email, they can see all the hosted domains.

              I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                @nebulon said in Is there a way to create email addresses without creating Cloudron users?:

                the "data privacy flaw" is very much unclear.

                I think that's just this:

                @eddowding said in Is there a way to create email addresses without creating Cloudron users?:

                Also even if app access is restricted, if a user goes to Dropdown > Email, they can see all the hosted domains.

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                @jdaviescoates is this because that user has the role of User and Email Manager? Is this so Cloudron used like a shared hosting environment of sorts?

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                • nebulonN nebulon

                  @jdaviescoates is this because that user has the role of User and Email Manager? Is this so Cloudron used like a shared hosting environment of sorts?

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                  @nebulon said in Is there a way to create email addresses without creating Cloudron users?:

                  @jdaviescoates is this because that user has the role of User and Email Manager? Is this so Cloudron used like a shared hosting environment of sorts?

                  I've no idea. @eddowding ?

                  I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                    @nebulon said in Is there a way to create email addresses without creating Cloudron users?:

                    @jdaviescoates is this because that user has the role of User and Email Manager? Is this so Cloudron used like a shared hosting environment of sorts?

                    I've no idea. @eddowding ?

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                    User does have that role. But that's very unexpected to allow them to manage only their users, but anyone's email.

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                      do we need a custom role?

                      Or a way to decouple email from cloudron?

                      Conscious tech

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