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Surfer - SFTP

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  • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

    @timconsidine said in Surfer - SFTP:

    @nebulon cracked it !

    Found this post : https://forum.cloudron.io/post/45417

    Doing the chmod and restarting the sftp service allows access.

    Does this mean there is an issue in Surfer which needs attention ? Or in the Cloudron config ?

    I'm just trying to get Publii working with Surfer and SFTP too but I'm a little unclear what I'm supposed to do?

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    I just logged into my server and ran:

    ``chmod 600 /home/yellowtent/platformdata/sftp/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key

    Then restarted the sftp service.

    But when I try to Sync my Publii website nothing at all appears within Surfer.

    @timconsidine @nebulon help!

    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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    • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

      @timconsidine said in Surfer - SFTP:

      @nebulon cracked it !

      Found this post : https://forum.cloudron.io/post/45417

      Doing the chmod and restarting the sftp service allows access.

      Does this mean there is an issue in Surfer which needs attention ? Or in the Cloudron config ?

      I'm just trying to get Publii working with Surfer and SFTP too but I'm a little unclear what I'm supposed to do?

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      timconsidine
      App Dev
      wrote on last edited by timconsidine
      #11

      @jdaviescoates after I followed the advice in https://forum.cloudron.io/post/45417 which is basically
      chmod 600 /home/yellowtent/platformdata/sftp/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key , then it all sprang into life.
      Before this, the SFTP connection specified in Publii wasn't succeeding.
      My Publii set up is :
      Screenshot 2022-11-04 at 18.26.51.png

      Once the chmod was done, the [Test connection] button worked and then I could sync the website.

      EDIT : above screenshot is WRONG !!!
      username should be username@test.domain.tld

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      • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

        I just logged into my server and ran:

        ``chmod 600 /home/yellowtent/platformdata/sftp/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key

        Then restarted the sftp service.

        But when I try to Sync my Publii website nothing at all appears within Surfer.

        @timconsidine @nebulon help!

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        timconsidine
        App Dev
        wrote on last edited by timconsidine
        #12

        @jdaviescoates hmmmm, strange
        what user are you setting in Publii Server tab ?
        See my previous post with image of my settings

        EDIT : but username in screenshot is wrong : should be of format user@test.domain.tld

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        • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

          I just logged into my server and ran:

          ``chmod 600 /home/yellowtent/platformdata/sftp/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key

          Then restarted the sftp service.

          But when I try to Sync my Publii website nothing at all appears within Surfer.

          @timconsidine @nebulon help!

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          wrote on last edited by timconsidine
          #13

          @jdaviescoates Ha ! My connection is no longer working !
          I updated Publii to V0.41.0 earlier today.
          Will diagnose after some supper

          EDIT : doh ! works with the right username

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            jdaviescoates
            wrote on last edited by jdaviescoates
            #14

            Thanks @timconsidine my SFTP connection works fine (actually did so before I ran the chmod command).

            I'm very confused because if I go to the File Manager I can see all the publii files there:

            f04c2d6b-55d6-4a9b-ab65-6a19c3369db5-image.png

            But if I login to the admin of the Surfer app at wiki.safejust.space nothing seems to be there 🤔

            1b7acc33-e520-4dfd-9885-cf6cd38fee16-image.png

            I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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              wrote on last edited by jdaviescoates
              #15

              Ah

              a7cd9949-c90a-4750-9a55-bdada447dd3f-image.png

              I guess that's the issue...

              But, actually, no, can't be. That must've been a temporary glitch because next time I tried:

              2a8baab0-f990-4210-96b9-38af77431dc0-image.png

              Moreover, as shown in my previous post the files are there, just nothing is displayed when visiting https://wiki.safejust.space

              Confused.

              I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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              • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                Ah

                a7cd9949-c90a-4750-9a55-bdada447dd3f-image.png

                I guess that's the issue...

                But, actually, no, can't be. That must've been a temporary glitch because next time I tried:

                2a8baab0-f990-4210-96b9-38af77431dc0-image.png

                Moreover, as shown in my previous post the files are there, just nothing is displayed when visiting https://wiki.safejust.space

                Confused.

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                timconsidine
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                wrote on last edited by
                #16

                @jdaviescoates could be !

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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #17

                  Not sure if that is the issue, but SFTP is on the platform side and thus for surfer to work, the files have to be put into the public folder. This is where surfer will serve up files from.

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                  • nebulonN nebulon

                    Not sure if that is the issue, but SFTP is on the platform side and thus for surfer to work, the files have to be put into the public folder. This is where surfer will serve up files from.

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                    jdaviescoates
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                    @nebulon said in Surfer - SFTP:

                    files have to be put into the public folder

                    That was it! Please could you add these exceedingly important information in the docs? Thanks!

                    Basically, as soon as I put /public/ in this field it all just worked as expected

                    4a282413-cd81-4807-b7ba-070362d76a63-image.png

                    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                    • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                      @nebulon said in Surfer - SFTP:

                      files have to be put into the public folder

                      That was it! Please could you add these exceedingly important information in the docs? Thanks!

                      Basically, as soon as I put /public/ in this field it all just worked as expected

                      4a282413-cd81-4807-b7ba-070362d76a63-image.png

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                      nebulon
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                      #19

                      @jdaviescoates I put that info now at https://docs.cloudron.io/apps/surfer/#folder-structure

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                      • nebulonN nebulon

                        @jdaviescoates I put that info now at https://docs.cloudron.io/apps/surfer/#folder-structure

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                        jdaviescoates
                        wrote on last edited by jdaviescoates
                        #20

                        @nebulon thanks! But I think it be even clearer by mentioning SFTP too and explicitly stating that that is where files need to go.

                        Something like:

                        The app will serve up all files from the public/ folder, so if you're uploading files using SFTP or some other method (e.g. to generate a static website) you need to put the files in the /public/ folder. If an index.html or index.htm file is located there, it will serve that one, otherwise it will show a placeholder page or, if directory listing is enabled, a listing of files and folders.

                        I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                          I had the same issue with a configuration in the FTP client I have used for around 1.5 years. All of a sudden it did not accept the password and or username. I restarted the SFTP server in Surfer, but it did not change anything. I have no problem getting in through the web interface using the same credentials (that fail in the FTP client), however.

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                          • S Shaun Snapp

                            I had the same issue with a configuration in the FTP client I have used for around 1.5 years. All of a sudden it did not accept the password and or username. I restarted the SFTP server in Surfer, but it did not change anything. I have no problem getting in through the web interface using the same credentials (that fail in the FTP client), however.

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                            nebulon
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                            wrote on last edited by
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                            @Shaun-Snapp do you still have the issue? Also I wonder what kind of SFTP you have restarted in the app, as the SFTP service is implemented in the sftp addon service of the platform not in surfer.

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                            • nebulonN nebulon

                              @Shaun-Snapp do you still have the issue? Also I wonder what kind of SFTP you have restarted in the app, as the SFTP service is implemented in the sftp addon service of the platform not in surfer.

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                              Shaun Snapp
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                              @nebulon Yes -- and to your question. I just typed this in at the Surfer prompt. /etc/init.d/ssh restart

                              I am no expert in restarting services -- but it responded with this.

                              root@5995ab0f-bf9c-46b0-9095-XXX:/app/code# /etc/init.d/ssh restart

                              • Restarting OpenBSD Secure Shell server sshd [ OK ]
                                root@5995ab0f-bf9c-46b0-9095-XXX:/app/code#

                              But I have the same problem. I want to emphasize I made no change. At first I thought the library WiFi I was on was blocking the FTP. But then I switched to my phone as the hotspot and had the same issue.

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                                @nebulon Yes -- and to your question. I just typed this in at the Surfer prompt. /etc/init.d/ssh restart

                                I am no expert in restarting services -- but it responded with this.

                                root@5995ab0f-bf9c-46b0-9095-XXX:/app/code# /etc/init.d/ssh restart

                                • Restarting OpenBSD Secure Shell server sshd [ OK ]
                                  root@5995ab0f-bf9c-46b0-9095-XXX:/app/code#

                                But I have the same problem. I want to emphasize I made no change. At first I thought the library WiFi I was on was blocking the FTP. But then I switched to my phone as the hotspot and had the same issue.

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                                nebulon
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                                @Shaun-Snapp well that sshd is not used at all and I am surprised this script didn't fail as there is nothing to restart 🙂

                                Can you check the logs of the sftp service in the services view of you Cloudron dashboard? sftp itself is provided as a service to apps and some apps like surfer enable that, but the sftp service is not really attached to the surfer app instance or such.

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                                • S Shaun Snapp

                                  I had the same issue with a configuration in the FTP client I have used for around 1.5 years. All of a sudden it did not accept the password and or username. I restarted the SFTP server in Surfer, but it did not change anything. I have no problem getting in through the web interface using the same credentials (that fail in the FTP client), however.

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                                  @Shaun-Snapp Check the logs of the FTP client you use.

                                  Sometimes it's set to use a certain protocol or security feature, but over the years that becomes obsolete and is replaced with a new one.

                                  You can also try creating a new connection and see if it picks up new settings.

                                  Conscious tech

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