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  • L LoudLemur

    @heliostatic

    In nearly 3 years here ArchiveBox has only managed to receive 5 upvotes. This is depressing. There is a big need for self-hosted archiving and if this application had been supported 3 years ago, it would have been ready for all those people who had their websites shuttered.

    The last ArchiveBox update was April 2021. There is a Docker image. The code has received high quality ratings. Lets sort this!

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    #9

    @loudlemur said in ArchiveBox -- Personal Internet Archive:

    The last ArchiveBox update was April 2021

    Precisely!
    There have been no releases for 10 months:-
    https://github.com/ArchiveBox/ArchiveBox/tags

    https://github.com/ArchiveBox/ArchiveBox/commits/dev
    shows commits just 7 days ago, but IMO not much use without releases.

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    • L LoudLemur

      @heliostatic

      In nearly 3 years here ArchiveBox has only managed to receive 5 upvotes. This is depressing. There is a big need for self-hosted archiving and if this application had been supported 3 years ago, it would have been ready for all those people who had their websites shuttered.

      The last ArchiveBox update was April 2021. There is a Docker image. The code has received high quality ratings. Lets sort this!

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      timconsidine
      App Dev
      wrote on last edited by timconsidine
      #10

      @loudlemur Just to be clear, I'm also very keen to see new apps on Cloudron.

      I just understand that I need to wait, and for those that I feel cannot wait for, I take an alternative route :

      • get another VPS and install CapRover. ArchiveBox is on CapRover if you have pressing need, as well some others that are on Cloudron wishlist. However in my experience as many as 40-50% of apps available on CapRover don't install correctly. More people packaging but quality and reliability much lower. Which is why it can be be worth waiting for a Cloudron app.
      • get another VPS and install docker / docker-compose, then no need of packaging, just installing apps which have already been dockerized
      • work through the tutorials about packaging, it's not easy but equally it's not beond reach. Lots of gotchas on the way, patient experimentation required, and personally I'm still learning, so it's for sure not a rapid solution to getting something packaged.

      All I'm saying is that's about priorities. If it's urgent enough and high enough priority, then that might suggest it's worth biting the bullet for an extra server for own docker installs or own CapRover or both.

      I have :

      • 1 x Cloudron
      • 1 x Caprover
      • 1 x "pure" Docker apps
      • 1 x Kasm
      • 1 x openEdX / Tutor.
        I accept I'm unlikely to get all of what I need/want on Cloudron in time for when I need/want it.
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      • L LoudLemur

        @timconsidine said in ArchiveBox -- Personal Internet Archive:

        @loudlemur said in ArchiveBox -- Personal Internet Archive:

        There is a big need for self-hosted archiving

        That doesn't seem to reconcile with only 5 votes.

        Hah! Yes, there seems to be something wrong with reality here! haa!

        Cloudron is brilliant for the updates, which just keep on coming and keep on working. What is the balance of time given to updating existing applications and introducing new ones?

        Something like this was suggested recently, but couldn't we try crowd funding somebody with packaging skills to rattle off a few more applications and help clear the backlog?

        What could we hope for with a dedicated packager? 5 new packages a week? 10?

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        timconsidine
        App Dev
        wrote on last edited by
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        @loudlemur said in ArchiveBox -- Personal Internet Archive:

        What could we hope for with a dedicated packager? 5 new packages a week? 10?

        I would say one or 2.
        There's a lot of work in packaging & in testing.

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        • timconsidineT timconsidine

          @loudlemur said in ArchiveBox -- Personal Internet Archive:

          What could we hope for with a dedicated packager? 5 new packages a week? 10?

          I would say one or 2.
          There's a lot of work in packaging & in testing.

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          LoudLemur
          wrote on last edited by
          #12

          @timconsidine Thanks for those ideas.

          It really is nice to know that if it is on Cloudron, it will work and be supported.

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          • L LoudLemur

            @timconsidine Thanks for those ideas.

            It really is nice to know that if it is on Cloudron, it will work and be supported.

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            timconsidine
            App Dev
            wrote on last edited by
            #13

            @loudlemur said in ArchiveBox -- Personal Internet Archive:

            t really is nice to know that if it is on Cloudron, it will work and be supported.

            Yes. And you mention support. Support for Caprover apps is close to non-existent. No, actually, sorry, that's harsh. There is support, but not a patch on what is available here.

            May also be worth exploring Yunohost and your own Heroku server (e.g. Dokku). They don't work for me, but they may for you or others.

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              humptydumpty
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              #14

              I use a Firefox extension called SingleFile that saves webpages as HTML. Works great.

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                turian
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                #15

                I also love this software, and have been pushing PRs to it.

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                • heliostaticH heliostatic

                  https://archivebox.io
                  "ArchiveBox takes a list of website URLs you want to archive, and creates a local, static, browsable HTML clone of the content from those websites (it saves HTML, JS, media files, PDFs, images and more)."

                  Can import links from:

                  • Pocket, Pinboard, Instapaper
                  • RSS, XML, JSON, or plain text lists
                  • Browser history or bookmarks (Chrome, Firefox, Safari, IE, Opera, and more)
                    Shaarli, Delicious, Reddit Saved Posts, Wallabag, Unmark.it, and any other text with links in it!

                  Can save these things for each site:

                  • favicon.ico favicon of the site
                  • example.com/page-name.html wget clone of the site, with .html appended if not present
                  • output.pdf Printed PDF of site using headless chrome
                  • screenshot.png 1440x900 screenshot of site using headless chrome
                  • output.html DOM Dump of the HTML after rendering using headless chrome
                  • archive.org.txt A link to the saved site on archive.org
                  • warc/ for the html + gzipped warc file .gz
                  • media/ any mp4, mp3, subtitles, and metadata found using youtube-dl
                  • git/ clone of any repository for github, bitbucket, or gitlab links
                  • index.html & index.json HTML and JSON index files containing metadata and details

                  There's a Docker image, as well: https://github.com/pirate/ArchiveBox

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                  LoudLemur
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #16

                  @heliostatic What is the progress on supporting ArchiveBox on Cloudron?

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                  • heliostaticH heliostatic

                    https://archivebox.io
                    "ArchiveBox takes a list of website URLs you want to archive, and creates a local, static, browsable HTML clone of the content from those websites (it saves HTML, JS, media files, PDFs, images and more)."

                    Can import links from:

                    • Pocket, Pinboard, Instapaper
                    • RSS, XML, JSON, or plain text lists
                    • Browser history or bookmarks (Chrome, Firefox, Safari, IE, Opera, and more)
                      Shaarli, Delicious, Reddit Saved Posts, Wallabag, Unmark.it, and any other text with links in it!

                    Can save these things for each site:

                    • favicon.ico favicon of the site
                    • example.com/page-name.html wget clone of the site, with .html appended if not present
                    • output.pdf Printed PDF of site using headless chrome
                    • screenshot.png 1440x900 screenshot of site using headless chrome
                    • output.html DOM Dump of the HTML after rendering using headless chrome
                    • archive.org.txt A link to the saved site on archive.org
                    • warc/ for the html + gzipped warc file .gz
                    • media/ any mp4, mp3, subtitles, and metadata found using youtube-dl
                    • git/ clone of any repository for github, bitbucket, or gitlab links
                    • index.html & index.json HTML and JSON index files containing metadata and details

                    There's a Docker image, as well: https://github.com/pirate/ArchiveBox

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                    LoudLemur
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #17

                    @heliostatic

                    ArchiveBox was featured in a blog recently:

                    https://ostechnix.com/self-host-internet-archive-with-archivebox/

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                    • RoundHouse1924R RoundHouse1924

                      @loudlemur said in ArchiveBox -- Personal Internet Archive:

                      The last ArchiveBox update was April 2021

                      Precisely!
                      There have been no releases for 10 months:-
                      https://github.com/ArchiveBox/ArchiveBox/tags

                      https://github.com/ArchiveBox/ArchiveBox/commits/dev
                      shows commits just 7 days ago, but IMO not much use without releases.

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                      LoudLemur
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #18

                      @RoundHouse1924 said in ArchiveBox -- Personal Internet Archive:

                      @loudlemur said in ArchiveBox -- Personal Internet Archive:

                      The last ArchiveBox update was April 2021

                      Precisely!
                      There have been no releases for 10 months:-
                      https://github.com/ArchiveBox/ArchiveBox/tags

                      https://github.com/ArchiveBox/ArchiveBox/commits/dev
                      shows commits just 7 days ago, but IMO not much use without releases.

                      There have been 5 releases since August:
                      https://selfhosted.libhunt.com/bookmark-archiver-changelog

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                      • heliostaticH heliostatic

                        https://archivebox.io
                        "ArchiveBox takes a list of website URLs you want to archive, and creates a local, static, browsable HTML clone of the content from those websites (it saves HTML, JS, media files, PDFs, images and more)."

                        Can import links from:

                        • Pocket, Pinboard, Instapaper
                        • RSS, XML, JSON, or plain text lists
                        • Browser history or bookmarks (Chrome, Firefox, Safari, IE, Opera, and more)
                          Shaarli, Delicious, Reddit Saved Posts, Wallabag, Unmark.it, and any other text with links in it!

                        Can save these things for each site:

                        • favicon.ico favicon of the site
                        • example.com/page-name.html wget clone of the site, with .html appended if not present
                        • output.pdf Printed PDF of site using headless chrome
                        • screenshot.png 1440x900 screenshot of site using headless chrome
                        • output.html DOM Dump of the HTML after rendering using headless chrome
                        • archive.org.txt A link to the saved site on archive.org
                        • warc/ for the html + gzipped warc file .gz
                        • media/ any mp4, mp3, subtitles, and metadata found using youtube-dl
                        • git/ clone of any repository for github, bitbucket, or gitlab links
                        • index.html & index.json HTML and JSON index files containing metadata and details

                        There's a Docker image, as well: https://github.com/pirate/ArchiveBox

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                        LoudLemur
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #19

                        @heliostatic

                        ArchiveBox is very popular. I hope Cloudron support it.

                        brave_KkjJdd9iqg.jpg

                        Also consider ArchivesSpace:
                        https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/4121/archivesspace-archives-collection-management-system/1

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                          LoudLemur
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #20

                          I thought I would bump this worthy request again.

                          ArchiveBox is all about self-hosting. Is it that there is some much better option or that people don't feel the need to self-host archives that this request has received so little love?

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                            Sam_uk
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #21

                            +1 I'd use this

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                              A Former User
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #22

                              I'm also looking for this app in Cloudron 🙂 , there is lot of content I'm interested to persist for the future

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                                girish
                                Staff
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #23

                                Incidentally, this got packaged just last week. We just have to double check and publish it...

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                                  A Former User
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #24

                                  @girish awesome ! 🙂
                                  Thanks a lot for the news !

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                                  • girishG girish

                                    Incidentally, this got packaged just last week. We just have to double check and publish it...

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                                    LoudLemur
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #25

                                    @girish said in ArchiveBox -- Personal Internet Archive:

                                    Incidentally, this got packaged just last week. We just have to double check and publish it...

                                    Fantastic! That is a brilliant start to the New Year!

                                    Thank you!

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                                      LoudLemur
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #26

                                      I am ardently expecting this...

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                                        LoudLemur
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #27

                                        One thing I hope is tested is how well ArchiveBox can store its archive on Block Storage options available on Cloudron. Archiving can take up a lot of space.

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                                          girish
                                          Staff
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #28

                                          @LoudLemur https://git.cloudron.io/cloudron/archivebox-app/ is the repo and it supposedly already works. I haven't tested it out though (which is why it's not published yet).

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