Favorite VPS providers?

[marcusquinn]

Hetzner, Contabo, Proxmox for home and dedicated servers.

[humptydumpty]

@marcusquinn said in Favorite VPS providers?:

Contabo

I've had over 3 hours of downtime in the past 2 weeks alone (St. Louis DC).

[timconsidine]

@humptydumpty said in Favorite VPS providers?:

sounds like they’re good to run a cloudron mail server on. How is their uptime?

I haven't had any issues with uptime,

[warg]

@lukas Nope, there's no monitoring on their side for all hardware topics as far as I know. I remember from other cases that the support had to be contacted by customer and in some cases they requested proofs that something is wrong with the hardware before they check or replace it. Same with network issues on their side: You can't say "It's broken" when it is on their side and then they check it, agree and fix it. You have to send them monitoring logs. That's what I dislike about them. Beside of that, replacing faulty hardware is of course free of charge.

My recommendations so far:

• Contabo
• netcup (although their new extra fee for server location choice is bad)
• Hetzner

Contabo is top notch. Never had any issue with their hardware (1 HW replacement in several years) and their support replies within minutes in case of technical issues on their side. Just perfect for a great price. Netcup is fine as well and good support in case of emergencies as well.

[roofboard]

recently switched to contabo lately and they have been awesome. They have servers in many countries which is cool.

[sentinel65]

+1 for Contabo. UI/UX is archaic but it does the job and it does it well.

I guess if you want the fancy interfaces (DO and Vultr), you have to pay the fancy prices! LOL

[jdaviescoates]

@sentinel65 said in Favorite VPS providers?:

+1 for Contabo. UI/UX is archaic but it does the job and it does it well.

I've only tried them for the Object Storage but quickly regretted that as they don't even support virtual host style URLs, only path style, see:

https://docs.contabo.com/docs/products/Object-Storage/technical-description/

(and this post)

[LoudLemur]

I am looking around for VPS providers that can offer a generous amount of RAM for a reasonable price.

Linode seems to have become a bit more expensive with new Akamai management.

Contabo don't support easy Cloudron installment at the moment.

Vultr are good but is there anything better?

[jdaviescoates]

@LoudLemur said in Favorite VPS providers?:

Vultr are good but is there anything better?

Netcup are quite generous with RAM relative to most

But depending on how much you're looking to spend it might be better to opt for a dedicated server from Hetzner which start at €44.39 with 64GB RAM (I'm planning on moving various of my VPSs onto one of those as soon as I can find the time to get around to it, and after checking the health of the IP of the new server, once I've got it).

[LoudLemur]

@jdaviescoates said in Favorite VPS providers?:

@LoudLemur said in Favorite VPS providers?:

Vultr are good but is there anything better?

Netcup are quite generous with RAM relative to most

But depending on how much you're looking to spend it might be better to opt for a dedicated server from Hetzner which start at €44.39 with 64GB RAM (I'm planning on moving various of my VPSs onto one of those as soon as I can find the time to get around to it, and after checking the health of the IP of the new server, once I've got it).

Absolutely wow! 64GB RAM?! That is quite an amazing looking deal. How good are Hetzner with helping people setup their Cloudron? I wasn't familiar with netcup. Here is Vultr at the moment for their Memory optimized servers:

[jdaviescoates]

@LoudLemur said in Favorite VPS providers?:

How good are Hetzner with helping people setup their Cloudron?

I don't know, but it's just copy/ pasting 3 lines of code so I'm not sure how much help most people here really need?

Re Netcup see also my earlier post:

https://forum.cloudron.io/post/64255

[marcusquinn]

@LoudLemur Hetzner's super easy. Their control panel does everything, so never had a reason to contact them. Tried Netcup once, seem to remember the control panel being clunky and having to contact them for various things. Contabo always been reliable for me, too. I don't think you can go wrong with any, but I heard here that Netcup has lockin-periods, so watchout for that.

[jdaviescoates]

@marcusquinn said in Favorite VPS providers?:

@LoudLemur Hetzner's super easy. Their control panel does everything, so never had a reason to contact them.

+1

I don't think I've ever had to contact them either and the UI is by far the best I've seen (not that I've tried that many), makes everything super easy.

@marcusquinn said in Favorite VPS providers?:

Netcup has lockin-periods

I think it's more that you have to pay 6 months in advance rather than lock-in periods. If you cancel before 6 months you get a refund.

Although actually, in some ways you're right: their best prices as displayed above are actually the 12 month contract deals. They charge a bit more for monthly contract, and also for choosing which location you want:

[_pressanykey]

Netcup always has special offers on the last Tuesday of the month. You might find something interesting there.

There is also the 30-day money-back guarantee, then only the actual term of the VPS is charged and the rest is then returned.

[LoudLemur]

@_pressanykey said in Favorite VPS providers?:

Netcup always has special offers on the last Tuesday of the month. You might find something interesting there.

There is also the 30-day money-back guarantee, then only the actual term of the VPS is charged and the rest is then returned.

Thanks for mentioning that! How nice that NextCloud calendar is sophisticated enough to support "last x day of the month" reccurancy.

[_pressanykey]

@LoudLemur said in Favorite VPS providers?:

Thanks for mentioning that! How nice that NextCloud calendar is sophisticated enough to support "last x day of the month" reccurancy.

I am happy to help. There is also a dedicated Netcup website for this: https://www.netcup-sonderangebote.de/

[scooke]

I've been running my Cloudron on a 48GB SSDNodes server for years and never had a problem - hosting all my own regularly/daily+ apps like Bitwarden, email, Vikunja, Paperless-ngx, at least 5 WP sites, Umami, a bunch of federated apps, plus Matrix/Element... really, my most important self-hosted online digital life is on this SSDNodes. I've only ever had one issue, that was with a Mastodon app that couldn't find it's backup (never resolved, actually), but I could rescue it by relying on SSDNodes built-in full disk backup. I just restored to one of those daily backups, and it went off without a hitch. So, like many of the VPS providers, if you get lucky, you won't complain.

But I also use Hosthatch, Wishosting for my EasyPanel instance, and another Wishosting for my Yunohost instance, and even a 3rd Wishosting VPS for my Umbrel install, Servarica for my FileRun instance, OVHCloud-KS-1 (KimSufi) for my Minio install, a few RackNerd servers for my Presearch instances and a Ghost-only server ('cause their whole install/udate process is sooo smooth now), and finally an EthernetServers VPS for my old LAMP instance that I just don't have the heart to stop using.

I could include referal links if you wish.

[warg]

@LoudLemur said in Favorite VPS providers?:

How good are Hetzner with helping people setup their Cloudron?

Zero. Hetzner does exactly what is provided under their terms of service/contract and nothing on top for free. Their prices are just possible due to a very strict management/customer handling. Anything on top costs extra.

[warg]

@scooke said in Favorite VPS providers?:

[...] But I also use [...]

That's an impressive list of services and systems you own as a individual. Thanks for the interesting post!

[timconsidine]

@scooke said in Favorite VPS providers?:

Servarica for my FileRun instance,

How do you find FileRun ?
I stopped using nextcloud as my file store (didn't need the bloat that comes with nextcloud) in favour of SeaFile. But considering a change.