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    cuzy-app
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    #69

    Our problem is that we have developed a Keycloak module for Humhub (see https://marketplace.humhub.com/module/auth-keycloak/description) wich synchronizes groups, emails, etc...
    And all our network is configured with Keycloak.
    Moreover, if we change, we need to ask to all our users to change the password.
    So we don't want to change for another SSO, especially since Keycloak works very well and meets our needs well.
    Thanks!

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    • C cuzy-app

      Our problem is that we have developed a Keycloak module for Humhub (see https://marketplace.humhub.com/module/auth-keycloak/description) wich synchronizes groups, emails, etc...
      And all our network is configured with Keycloak.
      Moreover, if we change, we need to ask to all our users to change the password.
      So we don't want to change for another SSO, especially since Keycloak works very well and meets our needs well.
      Thanks!

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      Sam_uk
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      #70

      @JLX89 @marcusquinn do you have access to any budgets that might help part-fund this work?

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      • girishG girish

        @JLX89 said in Keycloak & Cloudron:

        While OpenID integration is great, I personally would want to use Keycloak outside of Cloudron users, if possible.

        Can you elaborate a bit more on this? Is this because it feels more trusted/better features or something else? Or maybe you have extensively used keycloak in the past and like that tool. That's fine too, just trying to get some information here.

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        #71

        @girish Sure thing! We operate a few websites both on our Cloudron server and external hosts. Cloudron really is used for a mix of personal usage, projects, and a small amount of business use. We don't provide many people with accounts on our server and try to keep things separate. For our use case, we'd like to integrate Keycloak as an SSO Solution with a few different projects -- but we do not want user management to touch Cloudron in anyway. Essentially we host some apps for external usage on Cloudron, because it's just much easier to manage with all of the Cloudron features. Does this help?

        @Sam_uk said in Keycloak & Cloudron:

        @JLX89 @marcusquinn do you have access to any budgets that might help part-fund this work?

        Not really at the moment, we had planned on using this for an open source project if it's rolled out on Cloudron.

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        • J JLX89

          @girish Sure thing! We operate a few websites both on our Cloudron server and external hosts. Cloudron really is used for a mix of personal usage, projects, and a small amount of business use. We don't provide many people with accounts on our server and try to keep things separate. For our use case, we'd like to integrate Keycloak as an SSO Solution with a few different projects -- but we do not want user management to touch Cloudron in anyway. Essentially we host some apps for external usage on Cloudron, because it's just much easier to manage with all of the Cloudron features. Does this help?

          @Sam_uk said in Keycloak & Cloudron:

          @JLX89 @marcusquinn do you have access to any budgets that might help part-fund this work?

          Not really at the moment, we had planned on using this for an open source project if it's rolled out on Cloudron.

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          marcusquinn
          wrote on last edited by
          #72

          @JLX89 ANy examples of the apps that Keycloak would work with for you?

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          • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

            @JLX89 ANy examples of the apps that Keycloak would work with for you?

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            wrote on last edited by JLX89
            #73

            @marcusquinn So far the plan would be using Keycloak for Discourse, a few JavaScript Apps, and potentially a few yet to be determined external SaaS services.

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            • J JLX89

              @marcusquinn So far the plan would be using Keycloak for Discourse, a few JavaScript Apps, and potentially a few yet to be determined external SaaS services.

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              marcusquinn
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              #74

              @JLX89 OK. I think I get what you're thinking. With OpenID as a feature in Cloudron, Cloudron is still performing the function of an App, but with limited functionality.

              Whereas with Keycloak you have a genuine, dedicated portable app.

              I see the value. I guess now a question of official app store understanding, packaging and maintenance bandwidth, compared to the total demand for using.

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                #75

                I'm testing Keycloak on Elest.io now and it seems good so far https://elest.io/fully-managed-services?cat=Applications

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                • Sam_ukS Sam_uk

                  I'm testing Keycloak on Elest.io now and it seems good so far https://elest.io/fully-managed-services?cat=Applications

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                  jdaviescoates
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                  #76

                  @Sam_uk said in Keycloak & Cloudron:

                  Elest.io

                  First I'd heard of that, interesting, thanks.

                  I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                    wrote on last edited by girish
                    #77

                    @jdaviescoates @Sam_uk I think this was on /r/selfhosted some years ago...

                    Edit: here - https://old.reddit.com/r/selfhosted/comments/szhqq1/launching_a_fully_managed_opensource_platform_for/ . Note that it's not (in my definition) selfhosted.

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                      marcusquinn
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                      #78

                      @Sam_uk said in Keycloak & Cloudron:

                      https://elest.io/fully-managed-services?cat=Applications

                      It looks like those pages are sorted by popularity, so interesting to see where each thing is ranking with their users.

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                        marcusquinn
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                        #79

                        My costs would be about 10x Cloudron for the compute resources I'm hosting it on: https://elest.io/pricing

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                          Sam_uk
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                          #80

                          Yes it does work out more expensive. But hosting Keycloak there will be cheaper than paying to package it for Cloudron.

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                            #81

                            Update - @nj thanks for the repo ❤
                            https://github.com/njsubedi/cloudron-keycloak/pull/9


                            Upgraded from 20.0.3.

                            6078ff58-b1b8-425a-b034-a18963662469-image.png

                            Looks good and working so far.

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                            • BrutalBirdieB BrutalBirdie

                              Update - @nj thanks for the repo ❤
                              https://github.com/njsubedi/cloudron-keycloak/pull/9


                              Upgraded from 20.0.3.

                              6078ff58-b1b8-425a-b034-a18963662469-image.png

                              Looks good and working so far.

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                              jdaviescoates
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                              #82

                              @BrutalBirdie said in Keycloak & Cloudron:

                              Looks good and working so far.

                              get it into the app store?

                              I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                @BrutalBirdie said in Keycloak & Cloudron:

                                Looks good and working so far.

                                get it into the app store?

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                                marcusquinn
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                                #83

                                @jdaviescoates For that is needs the unit tests writing, that's the typical difference between custom self-install and app store.

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                                  #84

                                  @BrutalBirdie Ah nice, so this works with the latest version ? I think that is what @Sam_uk was facing a while ago.

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                                    #85

                                    Thanks. I've just migrated Keycloak to Elest.io so I won't be able to spend time testing this.

                                    It's a shame if it had happened a week earlier, or I'd known it was going to happen I wouldn't have spent the time migrating.

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                                    • girishG girish

                                      @BrutalBirdie Ah nice, so this works with the latest version ? I think that is what @Sam_uk was facing a while ago.

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                                      @girish said in Keycloak & Cloudron:

                                      @BrutalBirdie Ah nice, so this works with the latest version ? I think that is what @Sam_uk was facing a while ago.

                                      I upgraded the latest version from his git repo to the latest upstream version.
                                      And as far as I could tell it worked.

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                                        Update: @nj https://github.com/njsubedi/cloudron-keycloak/pull/10

                                        Also created release and images on my fork:

                                        https://github.com/BrutalBirdie/cloudron-keycloak/releases/tag/v22.0.1

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                                          wrote on last edited by
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                                          Been following Keycloak for a while but still have meta question - why is this valuable for Cloudron? Isn't CR moving over to a similar auth mechanism? The nerd in me wants to deploy this, but not sure what it gives me beyond what's already provided by CR?

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