Cloudron makes it easy to run web apps like WordPress, Nextcloud, GitLab on your server. Find out more or install now.


Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • Bookmarks
  • Search
Skins
  • Light
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
Collapse
Brand Logo

Cloudron Forum

Apps | Demo | Docs | Install
  1. Cloudron Forum
  2. Support
  3. Volumes error on access but work? kinda?

Volumes error on access but work? kinda?

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Solved Support
volumeshetznercifssshfs
11 Posts 4 Posters 1.7k Views 4 Watching
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • BrutalBirdieB Offline
    BrutalBirdieB Offline
    BrutalBirdie
    Partner
    wrote on last edited by girish
    #1

    What I am doing right now?
    Playing around with Hetzner Storage Boxes SSHFS and Cloudron Volumes.
    Wanted to know if I can use a Volume as a Minio "Drive" more like MINIO_VOLUMES

    So I create a sub-account yada yada that is all working.
    Now I add the Volume in Cloudron. . . no issue.

    I press the Open FileManager button and saw some errors popping up, Ignored them. Smart!
    Try to create a file:
    ac368f9c-f955-4e84-a8c2-c388ac88cfac-image.png

    500 Object { errno: -13, code: "EACCES", syscall: "chown", path: "/mnt/volumes/5283b6c6e7c0493f97093cd9d7c17b5a/test.txt" }
    ------
    Cloudron Internal Error
    
    If you see this, please send a mail with above log to support@cloudron.io
    ------
    
    {
      "name": "ClientError",
      "statusCode": 500,
      "errno": -13,
      "code": "EACCES",
      "syscall": "chown",
      "path": "/mnt/volumes/5283b6c6e7c0493f97093cd9d7c17b5a/test.txt"
    }
    

    Strange 🤔

    Trying as root in the server.

    chown -R root:root /mnt/volumes/5283b6c6e7c0493f97093cd9d7c17b5a
    chown: changing ownership of '/mnt/volumes/5283b6c6e7c0493f97093cd9d7c17b5a/test.txt': Permission denied
    chown: changing ownership of '/mnt/volumes/5283b6c6e7c0493f97093cd9d7c17b5a': Permission denied
    

    Huh? It created the file but I cant change its permission?

    This also results in a Minio startup error since it can not change the permissions.
    Odd. Did I miss anything?

    668801ca-94cc-4c7a-a151-f2579102e326-image.png
    53b5082f-c722-4000-b13b-7fec3ac35942-image.png

    Like my work? Consider donating a drink. Cheers!

    1 Reply Last reply
    1
    • BrutalBirdieB BrutalBirdie marked this topic as a question on
    • BrutalBirdieB Offline
      BrutalBirdieB Offline
      BrutalBirdie
      Partner
      wrote on last edited by
      #2

      This also block using the volume as the main data directory:

      image.png

      Like my work? Consider donating a drink. Cheers!

      1 Reply Last reply
      1
      • BrutalBirdieB Offline
        BrutalBirdieB Offline
        BrutalBirdie
        Partner
        wrote on last edited by
        #3

        Seems like the setting for the mount is not being respected:

        mount -l | grep -i '/mnt/volumes/5283b6c6e7c0493f97093cd9d7c17b5a'
        REDACTED-sub1@REDACTED-sub1.your-storagebox.de:/home/data on /mnt/volumes/5283b6c6e7c0493f97093cd9d7c17b5a type fuse.sshfs (rw,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,allow_other)
        

        It should be uid and gid 0 but is uid=1012 && gid=1013 🤔

        Like my work? Consider donating a drink. Cheers!

        1 Reply Last reply
        2
        • nebulonN Offline
          nebulonN Offline
          nebulon
          Staff
          wrote on last edited by
          #4

          using sub-accounts with sshfs and hetzner was showing odd side-effects in the past, as mentioned in https://docs.cloudron.io/backups/#sshfs Although this is referring to backups, same applies to volumes. Best do not use sub-accounts or use cifs instead.

          jdaviescoatesJ 1 Reply Last reply
          1
          • nebulonN nebulon

            using sub-accounts with sshfs and hetzner was showing odd side-effects in the past, as mentioned in https://docs.cloudron.io/backups/#sshfs Although this is referring to backups, same applies to volumes. Best do not use sub-accounts or use cifs instead.

            jdaviescoatesJ Offline
            jdaviescoatesJ Offline
            jdaviescoates
            wrote on last edited by
            #5

            @nebulon what exactly does a "subaccount" mean in this context please?

            I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

            girishG 1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

              @nebulon what exactly does a "subaccount" mean in this context please?

              girishG Offline
              girishG Offline
              girish
              Staff
              wrote on last edited by
              #6

              @jdaviescoates it's a concept in hetzner storage box - https://docs.hetzner.com/robot/storage-box/additional-users/

              1 Reply Last reply
              1
              • BrutalBirdieB Offline
                BrutalBirdieB Offline
                BrutalBirdie
                Partner
                wrote on last edited by
                #7

                Ahhhh okay I will try cifs with the sub-account.

                Like my work? Consider donating a drink. Cheers!

                jdaviescoatesJ 1 Reply Last reply
                1
                • BrutalBirdieB BrutalBirdie

                  Ahhhh okay I will try cifs with the sub-account.

                  jdaviescoatesJ Offline
                  jdaviescoatesJ Offline
                  jdaviescoates
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #8

                  @BrutalBirdie said in Volumes error on access but work? kinda?:

                  Ahhhh okay I will try cifs with the sub-account.

                  Out of interest, why not just no use a sub-account? Or put another way: why use a sub-account? 🙂

                  I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

                  BrutalBirdieB 1 Reply Last reply
                  0
                  • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                    @BrutalBirdie said in Volumes error on access but work? kinda?:

                    Ahhhh okay I will try cifs with the sub-account.

                    Out of interest, why not just no use a sub-account? Or put another way: why use a sub-account? 🙂

                    BrutalBirdieB Offline
                    BrutalBirdieB Offline
                    BrutalBirdie
                    Partner
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #9

                    @jdaviescoates Socialist hosting 😄
                    The community pays for the server and the storage box.

                    If someone wants to use part of the storage box for an app or something?
                    Can't just give the the whole Storage Box Account, they could access data from other members of the community.
                    With Sub-Accounts each account has only access to his... Account.

                    You could also think it in a way of:
                    You buy a 20 TB Storage box and each 1TB is for 1x Sub-Account, 1x Cloudron, 1x App, 1x Customer. yada yada yada

                    Getting the picture?

                    Like my work? Consider donating a drink. Cheers!

                    jdaviescoatesJ 1 Reply Last reply
                    1
                    • BrutalBirdieB Offline
                      BrutalBirdieB Offline
                      BrutalBirdie
                      Partner
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #10

                      The CIFS version worked btw.

                      Like my work? Consider donating a drink. Cheers!

                      1 Reply Last reply
                      1
                      • girishG girish has marked this topic as solved on
                      • BrutalBirdieB BrutalBirdie

                        @jdaviescoates Socialist hosting 😄
                        The community pays for the server and the storage box.

                        If someone wants to use part of the storage box for an app or something?
                        Can't just give the the whole Storage Box Account, they could access data from other members of the community.
                        With Sub-Accounts each account has only access to his... Account.

                        You could also think it in a way of:
                        You buy a 20 TB Storage box and each 1TB is for 1x Sub-Account, 1x Cloudron, 1x App, 1x Customer. yada yada yada

                        Getting the picture?

                        jdaviescoatesJ Offline
                        jdaviescoatesJ Offline
                        jdaviescoates
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #11

                        @BrutalBirdie said in Volumes error on access but work? kinda?:

                        Getting the picture?

                        Yes! Excellent

                        I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

                        1 Reply Last reply
                        0
                        Reply
                        • Reply as topic
                        Log in to reply
                        • Oldest to Newest
                        • Newest to Oldest
                        • Most Votes


                        • Login

                        • Don't have an account? Register

                        • Login or register to search.
                        • First post
                          Last post
                        0
                        • Categories
                        • Recent
                        • Tags
                        • Popular
                        • Bookmarks
                        • Search