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AVX Support in your VPS/Server

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  • W warg

    I would check out Netcup or Contabo. In case you go with Hetzner, you should check their availability for emergencies in the night/morning hours (e. g. outside the typical 9 to 5 working hours). For netcup, you got an emergency hotline that is free in case the issue is on their side and for Contabo I had good experience where they fixed a technical defect in the night in 5 minutes after my email. I'm not sure if Hetzner provides the same level. Of course it's just relevant if your services are business-critical or you need a certain reliability. I think none of these 3 providers are known for having a bad uptime.

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    @warg I just checked Contabo. Do all of their Servers have AVX support? E.g. the VPS M which seems priced fairly and they have a 200 GB NVMe included.

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      @erikscholz I can't say anything about that. Sorry! I just mentioned Contabo because I have very good experience with them and it looks from other posts in this forum that they support it. I just tested it on one of my servers with them (multiple years old) and it's supporting it. So if my older Contabo server support it, I think Netcup rootserver and Contabo should support it quite likely on their newer hostnodes. You could ask them, I'm sure they give you a quick answer.

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        I have AVX support on VPS L.

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        • erikscholzE erikscholz

          @warg I just checked Contabo. Do all of their Servers have AVX support? E.g. the VPS M which seems priced fairly and they have a 200 GB NVMe included.

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          @erikscholz I have 3 VPS Contabo and all of them support AVX

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            Netcup RS 1000 shows for me AVX and AVX2 support

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              My Netcup VPS 3000 doesn't support AVX 😞 means I have to order new Netcup RS and do a migration.
              How to do a fully migration to a new Server?

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                @lukas https://docs.cloudron.io/backups/#move-cloudron-to-another-server

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                  @lukas https://docs.cloudron.io/backups/#move-cloudron-to-another-server

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                  @girish ok I try it and hope to not get any issues 🙂

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                  • L lukas

                    @girish ok I try it and hope to not get any issues 🙂

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                    @lukas keep your existing server around until after you finish migrating and double checking everything is good.

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                    • girishG girish

                      @lukas keep your existing server around until after you finish migrating and double checking everything is good.

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                      @girish ok but I want to migrate my domain also to my new server and my domain points to my current server now

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                      • L lukas

                        @girish ok but I want to migrate my domain also to my new server and my domain points to my current server now

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                        @lukas when you migrate, the DNS will get updated automatically (if you use on the programmatic DNS providers) to point to the new server. you can power off your old server right before you start the restore on the new server. this way you can be 100% sure that you are working with the new server.

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                          @lukas you can additionally do the full restore as a "dry run" on the new server to check everything is working before syncing the DNS. That's what I do when migrating 🙂

                          I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                            @girish might want to make a locked forum thread containing all AVX supported VPSs/non-supported that we all found and link it at the top here

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                              I have an old VPS without AVX-Support (for few months for playing) and noticed that 7.6 cancel the installation because of that.
                              Is it possible to get an older setup (7.5.2) to proceed?
                              Thx

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                              • hpz24H hpz24

                                I have an old VPS without AVX-Support (for few months for playing) and noticed that 7.6 cancel the installation because of that.
                                Is it possible to get an older setup (7.5.2) to proceed?
                                Thx

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                                @hpz24 said in AVX Support in your VPS/Server:

                                Is it possible to get an older setup (7.5.2) to proceed?

                                yes, just add:

                                --version 7.5.2

                                to the setup command

                                I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                                  @hpz24 said in AVX Support in your VPS/Server:

                                  Is it possible to get an older setup (7.5.2) to proceed?

                                  yes, just add:

                                  --version 7.5.2

                                  to the setup command

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                                  @jdaviescoates perfect, thx!

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                                    Due to the CPU limitations of the ZimaBoard 832, which lacks support for AVX https://www.zimaboard.com/blog/diy-ultimate-home-server-with-zimaboard-832.html
                                    So no Cloudron 7.6 on this small device.

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                                      Yes this is kinda unfortunate, since I also run a zima board. We decided to prioritize the update for most users over trying on how to keep such low-end CPUs supported at first. We have a potential upgrade path forward for these devices, but its going to be quite a lot of work, as we have to first build the infrastructure to make addons like mongodb (which has no upgrade path for such CPUs) optional and thus also build a system to prevent apps, relying on mongodb, to not be installable.

                                      This can be done if there are too many users facing this issue though.

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                                      • nebulonN nebulon

                                        Yes this is kinda unfortunate, since I also run a zima board. We decided to prioritize the update for most users over trying on how to keep such low-end CPUs supported at first. We have a potential upgrade path forward for these devices, but its going to be quite a lot of work, as we have to first build the infrastructure to make addons like mongodb (which has no upgrade path for such CPUs) optional and thus also build a system to prevent apps, relying on mongodb, to not be installable.

                                        This can be done if there are too many users facing this issue though.

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                                        luckow
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                                        @nebulon As far as I understand it: If my CPU does not support AVX and I want a secure and always updated Cloudron instance, I have to change the underlying hardware. There will not (in the near future) be a second version of Cloudron (the platform). Right?

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                                          #52

                                          I have 4 Dell R910s with X7560 and 1tb ram each very painful as those machines are workhorses but cannot be used due to avx limitations and now only relying on my R930s with E5 series

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