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Authentication support?

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  • robiR robi

    @nebulon There appear to be App upgrade issues.

    From all the Jitsi updates, the app updates into a non responding state.

    It may be a combo of the fixed port at 10000 and addon changes.

    This also makes it impossible to have more than one instance installed, if one were to test/troubleshoot ;-/

    What I found works is uninstalling the app, then reinstalling, but that doesn't help fix the bug of it not upgrading properly.

    See the Jitsi support email if you want to log in and check things out.

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    nebulon
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    @robi unfortunately jitsi as such does not support port changes, so this needs to be possible upstream.

    For upgrades, as always with unstable apps, we don't care of migration. I can tell you already that likely the next jitsi update today will also require a reinstall. It just makes little sense to deal with config file or data migration while we haven't settled on the storage way yet.

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    • nebulonN nebulon

      @robi unfortunately jitsi as such does not support port changes, so this needs to be possible upstream.

      For upgrades, as always with unstable apps, we don't care of migration. I can tell you already that likely the next jitsi update today will also require a reinstall. It just makes little sense to deal with config file or data migration while we haven't settled on the storage way yet.

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      robi
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      #41

      @nebulon Understood, thanks for the clarification.

      Conscious tech

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      • nebulonN nebulon

        So the latest package v0.4.0 now has LDAP enabled and fixes the guest mode. Each conference can be started by an authenticated user and then guests can join.

        Optional LDAP will probably come as well.

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        Aizat
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        #42

        @nebulon I'm still getting the authentication issue, when I use my Cloudron login username, it doesn't authenticate me, and says incorrect pwd or username. Then I tried my Cloudron email, it just connecting...
        Do I need to change/add something in the "jitsi-meet-config.js"?

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        • AizatA Aizat

          @nebulon I'm still getting the authentication issue, when I use my Cloudron login username, it doesn't authenticate me, and says incorrect pwd or username. Then I tried my Cloudron email, it just connecting...
          Do I need to change/add something in the "jitsi-meet-config.js"?

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          Aizat
          wrote on last edited by
          #43

          @Aizat on the other test, I made an App Passwords, and use the password it generated instead of my Cloudron login, and it worked, moderator granted.

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            #44

            I'm just wondering the opposite.

            Is it possible to run Jitsi on Cloudron without any authentication? So that anyone can start a room? (I potentially have a client who wants to do this)

            Or is @luckow suggestion still the best/ only way to achieve that?

            @luckow said in Authentication support?:

            @jan-reinhardt As a quick (dirty) workaround: add a user guest with the password guest to your Cloudron ldap and only allow this user to access your jitsi instance. Tell your clients that they must use guest:guest for authentication.

            Or can we now do all the options outlined by @luckow here (and if so, how - if someone tells me, I'll add the details to the currently very sparse docs)

            @luckow said in Authentication support?:

            @jan-reinhardt As I understand it, there are several options that are not compatible with each other:

            • public (open to all / without authentication).
            • internal (only ldap users)
            • internal/public (only ldap users can initiate a conference, then guests are allowed)
            • jwt (token based authentication for e.g. nextcloud, rocket.chat ...).

            Thanks!

            I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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            • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

              I'm just wondering the opposite.

              Is it possible to run Jitsi on Cloudron without any authentication? So that anyone can start a room? (I potentially have a client who wants to do this)

              Or is @luckow suggestion still the best/ only way to achieve that?

              @luckow said in Authentication support?:

              @jan-reinhardt As a quick (dirty) workaround: add a user guest with the password guest to your Cloudron ldap and only allow this user to access your jitsi instance. Tell your clients that they must use guest:guest for authentication.

              Or can we now do all the options outlined by @luckow here (and if so, how - if someone tells me, I'll add the details to the currently very sparse docs)

              @luckow said in Authentication support?:

              @jan-reinhardt As I understand it, there are several options that are not compatible with each other:

              • public (open to all / without authentication).
              • internal (only ldap users)
              • internal/public (only ldap users can initiate a conference, then guests are allowed)
              • jwt (token based authentication for e.g. nextcloud, rocket.chat ...).

              Thanks!

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              #45

              @jdaviescoates said in Authentication support?:

              Is it possible to run Jitsi on Cloudron without any authentication? So that anyone can start a room? (I potentially have a client who wants to do this)

              Yes, just choose to have jitsi manage its own users and it's open by default.

              Conscious tech

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              • robiR robi

                @jdaviescoates said in Authentication support?:

                Is it possible to run Jitsi on Cloudron without any authentication? So that anyone can start a room? (I potentially have a client who wants to do this)

                Yes, just choose to have jitsi manage its own users and it's open by default.

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                jdaviescoates
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                #46

                @robi cool, thanks figured that might be the case, thanks for confirming! (I probably should've just tried it!)

                I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                • AizatA Aizat

                  @nebulon I'm still getting the authentication issue, when I use my Cloudron login username, it doesn't authenticate me, and says incorrect pwd or username. Then I tried my Cloudron email, it just connecting...
                  Do I need to change/add something in the "jitsi-meet-config.js"?

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                  @Aizat said in Authentication support?:

                  @nebulon I'm still getting the authentication issue, when I use my Cloudron login username, it doesn't authenticate me, and says incorrect pwd or username. Then I tried my Cloudron email, it just connecting...
                  Do I need to change/add something in the "jitsi-meet-config.js"?

                  Hello, have you been able to solve this problem? I would like to use the cloudron authentication...

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                    YurkshireLad
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                    Is this feature on the roadmap?

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                    • Y YurkshireLad

                      Is this feature on the roadmap?

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                      @YurkshireLad said in Authentication support?:

                      Is this feature on the roadmap?

                      I think it already exists.

                      There are various ways to configure it. I've got it set-up to allow LDAP users to start a meeting and then anyone else to join.

                      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                        michaelpope
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                        #50

                        Hey all,

                        Just running into troubles on this a bit with the LDAP authentication, and wondering if someone who has walked this road has some advice.

                        I'm following these instructions: https://jitsi.github.io/handbook/docs/devops-guide/secure-domain

                        The first step has me edit a file in /etc/prosody/conf.avail
                        Except... that's obviously a read-only file (because it's not part of the mount with Docker.

                        I'm pretty sure the only step I'll be able to do is the 2nd one... but is that sufficient?

                        Is there a different set of steps I should be following to enable LDAP for Jitsi?

                        Thanks.

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                          wrote on last edited by
                          #51

                          If you install the app with Cloudron usermangement enabled, then it is already pre-configured to use LDAP through Cloudron.

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                            kk_cloudron
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                            #52

                            It seems to work with the email address of the user but the connection wont be established. The process stands still with the following screen:
                            Screenshot 2023-10-04 at 10-00-01 Jitsi Meet.png

                            When I use only the username there is the error "Incorrect username or password"

                            Can you assume, whats the reason for that?

                            (I already checked the firewall rules of the hoster (Hetzner))

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                            • K kk_cloudron

                              It seems to work with the email address of the user but the connection wont be established. The process stands still with the following screen:
                              Screenshot 2023-10-04 at 10-00-01 Jitsi Meet.png

                              When I use only the username there is the error "Incorrect username or password"

                              Can you assume, whats the reason for that?

                              (I already checked the firewall rules of the hoster (Hetzner))

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                              jdaviescoates
                              wrote on last edited by jdaviescoates
                              #53

                              @kk_cloudron I just did a fresh test install on a Hetzner VPS and it Just Worked (generally on Cloudron you always use the username, not the email: unless it's a webmail client you're logging into)

                              Quite possibly the changes you've attempted to make messed something up?

                              I'd suggest starting again with a fresh install and be sure to select the correct User management setting you want at install:

                              14307173-b09d-4491-a118-08e8e6a96228-image.png

                              It should then just work without you having to configure anything.

                              I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                #54

                                Mmm. I did a fresh install but the app doesn't show any login prompt 😕

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                                • chetbakerC chetbaker

                                  Mmm. I did a fresh install but the app doesn't show any login prompt 😕

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                                  jdaviescoates
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                                  #55

                                  @chetbaker no, it doesn't until you actually start a meeting, then it says waiting for host, then you say i am the host and then you login

                                  I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                    chetbaker
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                                    Oh, cool. Thanks!

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                                      michaelpope
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                                      #57

                                      @nebulon @jdaviescoates @chetbaker

                                      Thanks! I feel pretty dumb here, as the reason I had this problem was that I just didn't start a meeting. I assumed (incorrectly) that it would block the main page with a log in screen, and not just the 'I am host' button once you actually start a meeting. Thank you for the answer :).

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                                        jdaviescoates
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                                        #58

                                        perhaps @staff should ads something to the docs 🤷‍♂️ as I think this trips up a few people as it's a bit counter intuitive

                                        I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                        • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                                          perhaps @staff should ads something to the docs 🤷‍♂️ as I think this trips up a few people as it's a bit counter intuitive

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                                          @jdaviescoates said in Authentication support?:

                                          docs 🤷‍♂️ as

                                          odd that second emoji is not in the edit box but is magically appearing all by itself

                                          Screenshot_20231004-170833_Firefox.png

                                          I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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