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    LoudLemur
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    #2

    +1 for ZeroNet

    Of the candidates out there available to replace the clearnet internet, this is one of the better options. It is built with anonymity in mind and it would be great if more people used it.

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      robi
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      #3

      @Kubernetes interested in this straight forward python app?

      Conscious tech

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      • robiR robi

        @Kubernetes interested in this straight forward python app?

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        App Dev
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        @robi This looks just like a pure "Client"-App to me. Why would you want to install it on Cloudron? What is the benefit instead of running it on your local computer?

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          doodlemania2
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          +1 - I run this app a lots (currently on the abandonware version but it still works) - not sure how this would fit into a cloudron app.

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          • KubernetesK Kubernetes

            @robi This looks just like a pure "Client"-App to me. Why would you want to install it on Cloudron? What is the benefit instead of running it on your local computer?

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            robi
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            #6

            @Kubernetes it's not a client app, it's a backend sync server, and your browser is the app. Hence the perfect Cloudron app.

            The default way of using it as a local server+your browser; browsing locally on 127.0.0.1, but with a few config tweaks it can be a public proxy to the ZeroNet network for anyone else too (or designated networks/IPs), just like https://proxy.zeronet.dev/ is.

            Both are useful as personal PCs aren't always on to be updated with the latest info, and a VPS approach would be.

            Self-hosting on steroids with a beautiful UI and decentralized via BT.

            Conscious tech

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            • robiR robi

              @Kubernetes it's not a client app, it's a backend sync server, and your browser is the app. Hence the perfect Cloudron app.

              The default way of using it as a local server+your browser; browsing locally on 127.0.0.1, but with a few config tweaks it can be a public proxy to the ZeroNet network for anyone else too (or designated networks/IPs), just like https://proxy.zeronet.dev/ is.

              Both are useful as personal PCs aren't always on to be updated with the latest info, and a VPS approach would be.

              Self-hosting on steroids with a beautiful UI and decentralized via BT.

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              #7

              @robi Thank you for the explaination. Understood now. I will have a look to package it.

              How do I find the source? There is mentioned to download it from 1Updateu2YsWPfPyESJ5CEnXfbtCAmPyH/"core"

              How does it work?

              Hmm... I have a bad feeling to package this. The md5 Hash of the downloaded zip even match and it feels like using the dark side of internet.

              I'm sorry, but I will not create a package for this application.

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                @robi Thank you for the explaination. Understood now. I will have a look to package it.

                How do I find the source? There is mentioned to download it from 1Updateu2YsWPfPyESJ5CEnXfbtCAmPyH/"core"

                How does it work?

                Hmm... I have a bad feeling to package this. The md5 Hash of the downloaded zip even match and it feels like using the dark side of internet.

                I'm sorry, but I will not create a package for this application.

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                robi
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                #8

                @Kubernetes said in ZeroNet:

                @robi Thank you for the explaination. Understood now. I will have a look to package it.

                Of course. Just grab the linux .zip and make note of the files/dirs that need linking to /app/data, mainly log, data, .conf and trackers.txt file.

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                  @robi Thank you for the explaination. Understood now. I will have a look to package it.

                  How do I find the source? There is mentioned to download it from 1Updateu2YsWPfPyESJ5CEnXfbtCAmPyH/"core"

                  How does it work?

                  Hmm... I have a bad feeling to package this. The md5 Hash of the downloaded zip even match and it feels like using the dark side of internet.

                  I'm sorry, but I will not create a package for this application.

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                  robi
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                  @Kubernetes said in ZeroNet:

                  Hmm... I have a bad feeling to package this. The md5 Hash of the downloaded zip even match and it feels like using the dark side of internet.

                  I'm sorry, but I will not create a package for this application.

                  I don't understand, isn't that a good thing?

                  It's what you make of it.. like WP, depends what you put up is what makes it dark or not.

                  Conscious tech

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                    robi
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                    #10

                    @girish need some help figuring out how to set up nginx to properly proxy this app (source) with a websocket too.

                    Not sure if the LAMP existing config interferes, since it's having trouble loading basic assets.

                    Conscious tech

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                      LoudLemur
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                      #11

                      Thanks for the update, @robi

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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #12

                        There's no git repo, is it? What is the error though? Proxying does not work at all? I have no idea really about the app.

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                        • girishG girish

                          There's no git repo, is it? What is the error though? Proxying does not work at all? I have no idea really about the app.

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                          robi
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                          #13

                          @girish no it's entirely maintained "off clearnet", locally and within ZeroNet ecosystem. There are other unmaintained forks with repos, but they're old and buggy.

                          If installed on rw filesystem is can also self-update from there. It's really cool.

                          Not sure how to handle that yet, however the code itself checks it's own version bumps, so you can get notified of that. It might be good to run most of it from /app/data

                          If tor is added, it can also use it to have a tor onion service presence or just browse. There is another bundle .zip with those added as of the end of Jan.

                          So for this src, unzip, pip install -r requirements.txt and set a zeronet.conf with ui_host = <app hostname> and ui_ip = * so it can use the internal network and localhost.

                          There is also an example Dockerfile in there that uses an alpine image.

                          Proxying works partially which is the frustraction, because some calls work and yet others don't so the beautiful pages don't load properly, missing assets, etc, and lots of 404s in the debug log.

                          I tried making all those locations as exceptions in nginx config, to no avail. So I must be missing something silly.

                          Conscious tech

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                            robi
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                            #14

                            New version dropped today: 0NetDWFsrc v10.02.24 Rev6008.zip

                            Linux bundle with latest tor binaries: 0NetDWFlinux v10.02.24 Rev6008.zip

                            Mac bundle with latest tor binaries: 0NetDWFmac v10.02.24 Rev6008.zip

                            Windows bundle with latest tor binaries: 0NetDWFwin v10.02.24 Rev6008.zip

                            How to run:
                            Unzip, chmod 755 <dir>
                            edit zeronet.conf & nginx.conf
                            cd <dir>
                            ./ZeroNet.sh

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                              robi
                              wrote on last edited by robi
                              #15

                              Here's an example of my zeronet.conf & nginx.conf trying to get it working for a few days now ;-/

                              I get 404s in the log/debug.log for / and the Websocket requests which breaks the page from loading with the message: UiServer Websocket was lost. Reconnecting.. immediately after it connects ;-/

                              https://paste.cloudron.io/dayaqeciho.properties

                              Not sure what's breaking it from the proxy perspective, as it works from a localhost install.

                              Additional hints from the original, now outdated version, https://zeronet.io/docs/faq/

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                                girish
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                                sorry, I am not installing crypt stuff πŸ™‚

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                                  sorry, I am not installing crypt stuff πŸ™‚

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                                  robi
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                                  #17

                                  @girish sorry? You're mistaken, it's not crypto/chain/coins stuff at all. Just python.

                                  It only looks like it since it uses a library that makes those long addresses unique. That's it.

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                                    @girish sorry? You're mistaken, it's not crypto/chain/coins stuff at all. Just python.

                                    It only looks like it since it uses a library that makes those long addresses unique. That's it.

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                                    @robi ah! I completely misread what this project is. I saw Bitcoin in the title and tuned out πŸ˜„

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                                      sorry, I am not installing crypt stuff πŸ™‚

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                                      LoudLemur
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                                      #19

                                      @girish said in ZeroNet:

                                      sorry, I am not installing crypt stuff πŸ™‚

                                      Just curious why you don't like crypto...

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                                        @girish said in ZeroNet:

                                        sorry, I am not installing crypt stuff πŸ™‚

                                        Just curious why you don't like crypto...

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                                        girish
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                                        @LoudLemur nothing to dislike (or like), mostly I don't have much idea about it πŸ™‚

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                                        • L LoudLemur

                                          @girish said in ZeroNet:

                                          sorry, I am not installing crypt stuff πŸ™‚

                                          Just curious why you don't like crypto...

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                                          necrevistonnezr
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                                          #21

                                          @LoudLemur said in ZeroNet:

                                          @girish said in ZeroNet:

                                          sorry, I am not installing crypt stuff πŸ™‚

                                          Just curious why you don't like crypto...

                                          I personally don’t β€žlikeβ€œ crypto because the bad far outweighs any good coming from it: It is the catalyst for the shitshow of cybercrime we find ourselves in today, where little assholes in Russia or Iran cripple and extort hospitals. It keeps North Korea alive. It fuels the Mafia. It enables scams. And that’s just the tip of the iceberg. It’s just a general bad idea to deprive states and state unions from control over the money system.

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