Other self-hosted communities?
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Before I actually read any posts in this thread, I assumed it would be about the self-hosted communities the revolve around platforms that are in many ways similar to Cloudron, e.g.
https://yunohost.org/
https://forum.yunohost.org/
#yunohost on freenode which is bridged to:
https://riot.im/app/#/room/#yunohost:matrix.org
support@conference.yunohost.orghttps://homelabos.com/
https://reddit.com/r/HomelabOS
https://homelabos.zulipchat.com/
https://youtube.com/NickBusey
https://twitter.com/HomelabOShttps://sandstorm.io/
https://sandstorm.io/community
https://www.facebook.com/sandstorm.io
https://twitter.com/SandstormIO
https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.freenode.net/?channel=#sandstorm
http://sandstorm.meetup.com/
https://groups.google.com/group/sandstorm-dev
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8xKZRW86Fa9W00uAppBXXg
https://www.linkedin.com/company/sandstorm.ioOne of the main reasons I'd love Cloudron to be fully open source again is because all of the above are.
If Cloudron were to be open source again I think a lot the great members of those communities would likely end up migrating over here, because imho Cloudron is a better product.
But lots of people don't come here simply because Cloudron is not open source, and that's a real shame imho.
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Before I actually read any posts in this thread, I assumed it would be about the self-hosted communities the revolve around platforms that are in many ways similar to Cloudron, e.g.
https://yunohost.org/
https://forum.yunohost.org/
#yunohost on freenode which is bridged to:
https://riot.im/app/#/room/#yunohost:matrix.org
support@conference.yunohost.orghttps://homelabos.com/
https://reddit.com/r/HomelabOS
https://homelabos.zulipchat.com/
https://youtube.com/NickBusey
https://twitter.com/HomelabOShttps://sandstorm.io/
https://sandstorm.io/community
https://www.facebook.com/sandstorm.io
https://twitter.com/SandstormIO
https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.freenode.net/?channel=#sandstorm
http://sandstorm.meetup.com/
https://groups.google.com/group/sandstorm-dev
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8xKZRW86Fa9W00uAppBXXg
https://www.linkedin.com/company/sandstorm.ioOne of the main reasons I'd love Cloudron to be fully open source again is because all of the above are.
If Cloudron were to be open source again I think a lot the great members of those communities would likely end up migrating over here, because imho Cloudron is a better product.
But lots of people don't come here simply because Cloudron is not open source, and that's a real shame imho.
@jdaviescoates I find that Yunohost is the most well designed of those three. I was actually considering it before Cloudron, but their SSO was not as well thought out as Cloudrons and I prefer the UI for Cloudron. Still a good product for sure. Sandstorm I found to be lacking in app options. Never really tried it out because of that.
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@jdaviescoates I find that Yunohost is the most well designed of those three. I was actually considering it before Cloudron, but their SSO was not as well thought out as Cloudrons and I prefer the UI for Cloudron. Still a good product for sure. Sandstorm I found to be lacking in app options. Never really tried it out because of that.
@atrilahiji I started off on hosted Sandstorm just because it was the first one click install web apps thing I discovered. In may ways I loved it (their capabilities based security and sharing stuff is really great), but the main issues was that even the (limited collection of) apps on there were not kept updated (I wonder if this has changed at all recently?).
When they said they were closing down their hosted offering I figured I'd try to self-host and found that installing it was insanely easy...
Then, when I got frustrated with the limitations of Etherpad (e.g. the lack of a hyperlink button - although since discovering docs.plus I've realised there are actually loads of Etherpad plugins, including one that adds such a button) I went looking for something a bit more like a self-hosted Google Docs...
I ended up trying Cloudron (also insanely easy to install) and never looked back (well, actually, occasionally I do look back, and at Yunohost and HomeLabsOS, mostly because of the open source thing).
Cloudron's automated DNS and certificates stuff is also way more powerful than Yunohost's, which only really works if you use their subdomains.
And Yunohost apps are not containerised like they are on Cloudron either (whereas as I understand it HomeLabsOS uses docker containers much like Cloudron).
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@atrilahiji I started off on hosted Sandstorm just because it was the first one click install web apps thing I discovered. In may ways I loved it (their capabilities based security and sharing stuff is really great), but the main issues was that even the (limited collection of) apps on there were not kept updated (I wonder if this has changed at all recently?).
When they said they were closing down their hosted offering I figured I'd try to self-host and found that installing it was insanely easy...
Then, when I got frustrated with the limitations of Etherpad (e.g. the lack of a hyperlink button - although since discovering docs.plus I've realised there are actually loads of Etherpad plugins, including one that adds such a button) I went looking for something a bit more like a self-hosted Google Docs...
I ended up trying Cloudron (also insanely easy to install) and never looked back (well, actually, occasionally I do look back, and at Yunohost and HomeLabsOS, mostly because of the open source thing).
Cloudron's automated DNS and certificates stuff is also way more powerful than Yunohost's, which only really works if you use their subdomains.
And Yunohost apps are not containerised like they are on Cloudron either (whereas as I understand it HomeLabsOS uses docker containers much like Cloudron).
@jdaviescoates AH I didn't know that about Yunohost. I think what gets me about them from a usability standpoint is the different URL and login for regular users and admins. I like having a regular account with admin roles accessing the same URL with cloudron.
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@jdaviescoates AH I didn't know that about Yunohost. I think what gets me about them from a usability standpoint is the different URL and login for regular users and admins. I like having a regular account with admin roles accessing the same URL with cloudron.
@atrilahiji I used yunohost for a while, and cloudron's ssl certificate stuff and containerization was what got me hooked.
I actually liked yunohost's SSO a bit more (from a user standpoint, can't say about it being well-designed or this kind of thing), because IIRC you could actually sign-in to an app and be already signed into all others that you hosted, which was a nice experience overall.
I still think cloudron is a MUCH better product, which is why I stuck with it and started paying for it. Managing of ssl certificates without intervention and containerization were what got me into it, but great documentation, ease of packaging, support, and a thriving community is what keeps me here. Cloudron rocks.
Edit: Just remembered something else: automatic DNS management, and BACKUPS! Holy moly, automatic off-site backups!
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@atrilahiji I used yunohost for a while, and cloudron's ssl certificate stuff and containerization was what got me hooked.
I actually liked yunohost's SSO a bit more (from a user standpoint, can't say about it being well-designed or this kind of thing), because IIRC you could actually sign-in to an app and be already signed into all others that you hosted, which was a nice experience overall.
I still think cloudron is a MUCH better product, which is why I stuck with it and started paying for it. Managing of ssl certificates without intervention and containerization were what got me into it, but great documentation, ease of packaging, support, and a thriving community is what keeps me here. Cloudron rocks.
Edit: Just remembered something else: automatic DNS management, and BACKUPS! Holy moly, automatic off-site backups!
@malvim Agree. Honestly so far Cloudron is the most well thought out platform out of the ones I've tried. It would take a lot to move me away from it tbh.
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@atrilahiji I used yunohost for a while, and cloudron's ssl certificate stuff and containerization was what got me hooked.
I actually liked yunohost's SSO a bit more (from a user standpoint, can't say about it being well-designed or this kind of thing), because IIRC you could actually sign-in to an app and be already signed into all others that you hosted, which was a nice experience overall.
I still think cloudron is a MUCH better product, which is why I stuck with it and started paying for it. Managing of ssl certificates without intervention and containerization were what got me into it, but great documentation, ease of packaging, support, and a thriving community is what keeps me here. Cloudron rocks.
Edit: Just remembered something else: automatic DNS management, and BACKUPS! Holy moly, automatic off-site backups!
@malvim said in Other self-hosted communities?:
Managing of ssl certificates without intervention and containerization were what got me into it, but great documentation, ease of packaging, support, and a thriving community is what keeps me here. Cloudron rocks.
That's great. I'll use that for my "what are you favourite Cloudron features research"
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https://d2c.io is pretty decent. Not open-source but self-hosted and does clustering well. They have a Discord channel I nudged them to setup but it only gets a post every few months. Decent project though and some solid app-stacks packaged for one-click installs.
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@marcusquinn just noticed d2c.io is for sale . Did the company go under or did they forget to renew?
@girish That's sad. Their Discord has been inactive for a few years now, though. Shame, very innovative and useful product. I still don't think anyone's really solved elastic hosting setups as well as they did.
