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What's coming in 8.2

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  • girishG Offline
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    girish
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    #56

    Sorry for a small confusion: we have made a 8.1 available as unstable now to fix many of the regressions in 8.0. We could not make it a patch release of 8.0 because it also introduces some features like OIDC groups, Gandi PAT support, Hetzner Object Storage etc. Nothing major but we are still forced by semver to make a "feature" release and thus 8.1

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    • girishG girish

      We will be working on the following for 8.2:

      • (9.0) Backup integrity - store size and checksum of backups. Also provide a way to "verify" backup integrity in the remote.
      • (9.0) Show backup/restore progress
      • (9.0) Multiple Backup Destinations
      • (9.0) Granular Backup schedule
      • Fix issue with removal of stale/failed/partial backups
      • Add sqlite3 addon
      • Remove the global lock for backups.
      • App archival?
      • VM mode for apps?
      • Branding of OIDC button
      • Add more notification methods
      • Don't run du for small disks (see)
      • Mail attachment search

      This used to 8.1 but see this post

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      wrote on last edited by
      #57

      @girish said in What's coming in 8.2:

      Add sqlite3 addon

      This is implemented now (for 8.2). https://docs.cloudron.io/packaging/addons/#sqlite .

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      • firmansiF Offline
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        firmansi
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        #58

        Is there any update for the ETA of this version?

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        • girishG Offline
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          girish
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          wrote on last edited by
          #59

          @firmansi no ETA, we are implementing them one by one.

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          • girishG girish

            We will be working on the following for 8.2:

            • (9.0) Backup integrity - store size and checksum of backups. Also provide a way to "verify" backup integrity in the remote.
            • (9.0) Show backup/restore progress
            • (9.0) Multiple Backup Destinations
            • (9.0) Granular Backup schedule
            • Fix issue with removal of stale/failed/partial backups
            • Add sqlite3 addon
            • Remove the global lock for backups.
            • App archival?
            • VM mode for apps?
            • Branding of OIDC button
            • Add more notification methods
            • Don't run du for small disks (see)
            • Mail attachment search

            This used to 8.1 but see this post

            girishG Offline
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            girish
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            wrote on last edited by
            #60

            @girish said in What's coming in 8.2:

            Don't run du for small disks (see)

            I have added a mechanism to skip running du . The code now looks for a /home/yellowtent/platformdata/diskusage/exclude file. This file can contain one filesystem (as listed in the first column of df output) per line. du for these filesystems is skipped.

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            • girishG girish

              We will be working on the following for 8.2:

              • (9.0) Backup integrity - store size and checksum of backups. Also provide a way to "verify" backup integrity in the remote.
              • (9.0) Show backup/restore progress
              • (9.0) Multiple Backup Destinations
              • (9.0) Granular Backup schedule
              • Fix issue with removal of stale/failed/partial backups
              • Add sqlite3 addon
              • Remove the global lock for backups.
              • App archival?
              • VM mode for apps?
              • Branding of OIDC button
              • Add more notification methods
              • Don't run du for small disks (see)
              • Mail attachment search

              This used to 8.1 but see this post

              girishG Offline
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              girish
              Staff
              wrote on last edited by
              #61

              @girish said in What's coming in 8.2:

              Mail attachment search

              This is now implemented with Tika support in the mail server.

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              • girishG girish

                We will be working on the following for 8.2:

                • (9.0) Backup integrity - store size and checksum of backups. Also provide a way to "verify" backup integrity in the remote.
                • (9.0) Show backup/restore progress
                • (9.0) Multiple Backup Destinations
                • (9.0) Granular Backup schedule
                • Fix issue with removal of stale/failed/partial backups
                • Add sqlite3 addon
                • Remove the global lock for backups.
                • App archival?
                • VM mode for apps?
                • Branding of OIDC button
                • Add more notification methods
                • Don't run du for small disks (see)
                • Mail attachment search

                This used to 8.1 but see this post

                girishG Offline
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                girish
                Staff
                wrote on last edited by
                #62

                @girish said in What's coming in 8.2:

                Branding of OIDC button

                Implemented in https://git.cloudron.io/platform/box/-/commit/872705d58d3146ec6b6a5ac5aed6adbe9e245ab9 . The Cloudron name is used as the OIDC provider name as well. The apps will be adjusted one by one to make use of this new environment variable CLOUDRON_OIDC_PROVIDER_NAME

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                • girishG girish

                  We will be working on the following for 8.2:

                  • (9.0) Backup integrity - store size and checksum of backups. Also provide a way to "verify" backup integrity in the remote.
                  • (9.0) Show backup/restore progress
                  • (9.0) Multiple Backup Destinations
                  • (9.0) Granular Backup schedule
                  • Fix issue with removal of stale/failed/partial backups
                  • Add sqlite3 addon
                  • Remove the global lock for backups.
                  • App archival?
                  • VM mode for apps?
                  • Branding of OIDC button
                  • Add more notification methods
                  • Don't run du for small disks (see)
                  • Mail attachment search

                  This used to 8.1 but see this post

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                  girish
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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #63

                  @girish said in What's coming in 8.2:

                  VM mode for apps?

                  We will re-evaluate this in some future release. For the moment, this is out of scope. It's too complicated to implement a VM like system that allow readwrite containers and further allow users to define backup directories, services, exposed ports etc. We will stick to pre-packaged apps for the moment.

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                  • girishG girish

                    @girish said in What's coming in 8.2:

                    VM mode for apps?

                    We will re-evaluate this in some future release. For the moment, this is out of scope. It's too complicated to implement a VM like system that allow readwrite containers and further allow users to define backup directories, services, exposed ports etc. We will stick to pre-packaged apps for the moment.

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                    humptydumpty
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                    #64

                    @girish how’s it going with multiple backup destinations? I’m really looking forward to this.

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                      #65

                      @girish is there gonna be any feature to backup email separately

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                      • firmansiF firmansi

                        @girish is there gonna be any feature to backup email separately

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                        girish
                        Staff
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #66

                        @firmansi internally, email is already backed up separately. You will find mail.tar.gz in your backups, for example. Or are you thinking of something else?

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                          firmansi
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                          #67

                          @girish well...i mean to back up differently (independent backup), currently, correct me if i am wrong, the backups involve the applications backup, so it turns out if i only want to backup email, i have to backup the app first then uninstall apps then back up cloudron along with the the email.

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                            girish
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                            wrote on last edited by
                            #68

                            @firmansi right.. there is no way to trigger a backup separately for just the mail right now. It's easy to add the button but implementing just restoring of mail server data also has to be implemented for completeness. But yeah, this is not there yet.

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                            • girishG girish

                              @firmansi right.. there is no way to trigger a backup separately for just the mail right now. It's easy to add the button but implementing just restoring of mail server data also has to be implemented for completeness. But yeah, this is not there yet.

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                              humptydumpty
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #69

                              @girish have you encountered any hiccups regarding the multiple backup destinations or is it coming along smoothly?

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                                girish
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                                wrote on last edited by
                                #70

                                @humptydumpty it's not implemented yet, so.. sorry, no update on that front.

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                                • girishG girish

                                  @humptydumpty it's not implemented yet, so.. sorry, no update on that front.

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                                  wrote on last edited by
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                                  @girish said in What's coming in 8.2:

                                  @humptydumpty it's not implemented yet, so.. sorry, no update on that front.

                                  FYI I'm really hoping that it won't just be multiple backup destinations, but also multiple backup formats, e.g. rsync to destination 1, tarball to destination 2

                                  Perhaps it would also be good to be able to specifc type of back-up on a per-app basis. From the little I understand some apps suit rsync/ tarball better than others?

                                  (although I have to admit I'm not at all clear on which apps suit which type - e.g. I used to think "lots of files -> rsync" but sometimes it seems "lots of files -> tarball (because it takes ages for it to check which files have actually changed)" 🤷

                                  I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                    wrote on last edited by girish
                                    #72

                                    8.2 will also get initial support to mount any device from the host into the container. This is mostly done for home automation apps, but may also be relevant for AI apps, which need access to special devices, exposed by the GPU, from the host.

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                                    • girishG girish

                                      We will be working on the following for 8.2:

                                      • (9.0) Backup integrity - store size and checksum of backups. Also provide a way to "verify" backup integrity in the remote.
                                      • (9.0) Show backup/restore progress
                                      • (9.0) Multiple Backup Destinations
                                      • (9.0) Granular Backup schedule
                                      • Fix issue with removal of stale/failed/partial backups
                                      • Add sqlite3 addon
                                      • Remove the global lock for backups.
                                      • App archival?
                                      • VM mode for apps?
                                      • Branding of OIDC button
                                      • Add more notification methods
                                      • Don't run du for small disks (see)
                                      • Mail attachment search

                                      This used to 8.1 but see this post

                                      girishG Offline
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                                      girish
                                      Staff
                                      wrote on last edited by girish
                                      #73

                                      @girish said in What's coming in 8.2:

                                      Remove the global lock for backups.

                                      Finally, the global lock is gone. Practically, what this means is: Backups and Updates do not block app configuration anymore.

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                                      • girishG girish

                                        @girish said in What's coming in 8.2:

                                        Remove the global lock for backups.

                                        Finally, the global lock is gone. Practically, what this means is: Backups and Updates do not block app configuration anymore.

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                                        @girish Amazing!

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                                        • girishG girish

                                          We will be working on the following for 8.2:

                                          • (9.0) Backup integrity - store size and checksum of backups. Also provide a way to "verify" backup integrity in the remote.
                                          • (9.0) Show backup/restore progress
                                          • (9.0) Multiple Backup Destinations
                                          • (9.0) Granular Backup schedule
                                          • Fix issue with removal of stale/failed/partial backups
                                          • Add sqlite3 addon
                                          • Remove the global lock for backups.
                                          • App archival?
                                          • VM mode for apps?
                                          • Branding of OIDC button
                                          • Add more notification methods
                                          • Don't run du for small disks (see)
                                          • Mail attachment search

                                          This used to 8.1 but see this post

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                                          girish
                                          Staff
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #75

                                          @girish said in What's coming in 8.2:

                                          App archival?

                                          This is implemented now. In the Uninstall section, there is an option to archive.

                                          265b73f3-af33-46c4-9e4d-3c8fef9e8e43-image.png

                                          In the Backups view, there is a listing of archives. You can unarchive them from there.

                                          5e07b43a-cf67-47c8-8cc0-eff1dd8eba5a-image.png

                                          Archiving means:

                                          • App gets uninstalled freeing up space on server
                                          • App won't be in the main dashboard
                                          • The latest backup of the app is kept "forever". Not affected by backup cleaning policies.
                                          • Can be unarchived. If you delete the archive entry itself, the associated backup will eventually go away based on cleanup policy.
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