What's coming in 8.2

[girish]

@firmansi internally, email is already backed up separately. You will find mail.tar.gz in your backups, for example. Or are you thinking of something else?

[firmansi]

@girish well...i mean to back up differently (independent backup), currently, correct me if i am wrong, the backups involve the applications backup, so it turns out if i only want to backup email, i have to backup the app first then uninstall apps then back up cloudron along with the the email.

[girish]

@firmansi right.. there is no way to trigger a backup separately for just the mail right now. It's easy to add the button but implementing just restoring of mail server data also has to be implemented for completeness. But yeah, this is not there yet.

[humptydumpty]

@girish have you encountered any hiccups regarding the multiple backup destinations or is it coming along smoothly?

[girish]

@humptydumpty it's not implemented yet, so.. sorry, no update on that front.

[jdaviescoates]

@girish said in What's coming in 8.2:

@humptydumpty it's not implemented yet, so.. sorry, no update on that front.

FYI I'm really hoping that it won't just be multiple backup destinations, but also multiple backup formats, e.g. rsync to destination 1, tarball to destination 2

Perhaps it would also be good to be able to specifc type of back-up on a per-app basis. From the little I understand some apps suit rsync/ tarball better than others?

(although I have to admit I'm not at all clear on which apps suit which type - e.g. I used to think "lots of files -> rsync" but sometimes it seems "lots of files -> tarball (because it takes ages for it to check which files have actually changed)"

[nebulon]

8.2 will also get initial support to mount any device from the host into the container. This is mostly done for home automation apps, but may also be relevant for AI apps, which need access to special devices, exposed by the GPU, from the host.

[girish]

@girish said in What's coming in 8.2:

Remove the global lock for backups.

Finally, the global lock is gone. Practically, what this means is: Backups and Updates do not block app configuration anymore.

[marcusquinn]

@girish Amazing!

[girish]

@girish said in What's coming in 8.2:

App archival?

This is implemented now. In the Uninstall section, there is an option to archive.

In the Backups view, there is a listing of archives. You can unarchive them from there.

Archiving means:

• App gets uninstalled freeing up space on server
• App won't be in the main dashboard
• The latest backup of the app is kept "forever". Not affected by backup cleaning policies.
• Can be unarchived. If you delete the archive entry itself, the associated backup will eventually go away based on cleanup policy.

[timconsidine]

Wow this can be super useful.
Awesome ️

[girish]

@girish said in What's coming in 8.2:

Add more notification methods

The notification stuff has been refactored now. For a start, each user (only admins) can decide what they want to get notified about by email. If you want notification about specific things, happy to add more but we just added the basics right now.

[girish]

Making more change to backup stuff relies on getting the global lock changes out and well tested before we make more changes here. We will get 8.2 out in the coming week(s). Apart from backups, I think we implemented all the features listed initially. Will also help us get out Formbricks, Wallos and some other apps which rely on 8.2 features.

[SansGuidon]

@girish About "app is down", I'm interested in a way to tune "restart automatically" for app being down. It's not the first time I notice an app is down or not responding because it crashed during the night and in the morning I have to manually restart it.
it happened for instance that my wordpress blog was stopped due to high traffic because of being on the frontpage of hacker news... and so was down for several hours... what a pity

[girish]

@SansGuidon I think we can add an automatic restart (one time when health check fails) next release. I guess we can make this hardcoded/automatic in the platform itself.

[d19dotca]

8.2 is shaping up to be an awesome release! Can’t wait to see it. Great job!

[jdaviescoates]

@girish said in What's coming in 8.2:

Making more change to backup stuff relies on getting the global lock changes out and well tested before we make more changes here. We will get 8.2 out in the coming week(s). Apart from backups, I think we implemented all the features listed initially.

Does that mean the backup stuff listed above isn't going to be included in 8.2?

[girish]

@jdaviescoates said in What's coming in 8.2:

Does that mean the backup stuff listed above isn't going to be included in 8.2?

yes, it's not included/implemented.

[marcusquinn]

Brilliant round of features for quality of life and peace of mind — thank you

[umnz]

Very small quality of life request for 8.2:
Please ensure these tool tip / help / further reading links open in a new tab or window rather than linking directly to the resource which causes the user to lose any data they've entered into the form/process.