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Adjust cron jobs for Mautic... is it possible?

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      girish
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      wrote on last edited by girish
      #5

      You can edit the /app/data/crontab.system patterns as you wish . See https://docs.cloudron.io/apps/mautic/#system-cron-jobs . I agree that mautic's flow of calling cron for everything is suboptimial. This is why the package made the patterns editable . In fact, for processing any task, the mautic way is to run a cronjob manually.

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        Would that mean I can add my custom script (that calls the CLI commands) and add a cronjobs for this?

        (Ask me about B2B marketing automation & low code business solutions, if thats interesting for you.)

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          Yes, you can add your custom script that calls CLI comands in https://docs.cloudron.io/apps/mautic/#custom-cron-jobs

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          • girishG girish

            You can edit the /app/data/crontab.system patterns as you wish . See https://docs.cloudron.io/apps/mautic/#system-cron-jobs . I agree that mautic's flow of calling cron for everything is suboptimial. This is why the package made the patterns editable . In fact, for processing any task, the mautic way is to run a cronjob manually.

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            @girish said in Adjust cron jobs for Mautic... is it possible?:

            You can edit the /app/data/crontab.system patterns as you wish . See https://docs.cloudron.io/apps/mautic/#system-cron-jobs . I agree that mautic's flow of calling cron for everything is suboptimial. This is why the package made the patterns editable . In fact, for processing any task, the mautic way is to run a cronjob manually.

            Will this file stay intact with every Mautic update via cloudron? Because I would then comment them out and completely replace them with custom cron jobs.

            (Ask me about B2B marketing automation & low code business solutions, if thats interesting for you.)

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              Yes the cronjobs configured via the UI will persist the update. All in all I am still unsure if its now a good or bad idea to provide default cron jobs for mautic or not. Maybe active mautic users could give some more insights on this?

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                #10

                We have years long experience with mautic 😉

                Its important to help with a default cronjob setup. The one from the docs work, but its not optimal. I will help setting it up in a better way together with you, if you like.

                For now it would be good, if the out of the box setup for cronjobs in cloudron could also be disabled. I did it by commenting out every line in the crontab.system - but will this be replaced again by an update or not? Its in the /app/data directory. So I think it will not?

                I already changed my cronjob setup with a shell file. I trigger this every minute, in case its still running, it will be ignored. I will need to extend it by other optional cronjob tasks - maybe having even two or more scripts. One to run every minute (if server can handle it). And then some maintenance task that don't need to run that often.

                Update - the current version can now be found at:
                https://github.com/twentyZen/mautic-cronjobs

                Myself I'm not a script or Linux Professional. Probably that approach can be improved.

                (Ask me about B2B marketing automation & low code business solutions, if thats interesting for you.)

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                  For instance - whats the php memory limit on cli? Is it the same limit as for the mautic instance overall?

                  (Ask me about B2B marketing automation & low code business solutions, if thats interesting for you.)

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                    For instance - whats the php memory limit on cli? Is it the same limit as for the mautic instance overall?

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                    @dsp76 By default, the cli and apache have same php memory limit - 512M . If you change the memory_limit in /app/data/php.ini , it will affect both.

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                      Any having issues with cron jobs ?

                      my segments have stopped updating automatically but I haven't touched the crontab.system or crontab.user
                      neither have I customized anything regarding cron jobs in Mautic

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                        Anything in the logs? Which mautic package are you on?

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                          We have years long experience with mautic 😉

                          Its important to help with a default cronjob setup. The one from the docs work, but its not optimal. I will help setting it up in a better way together with you, if you like.

                          For now it would be good, if the out of the box setup for cronjobs in cloudron could also be disabled. I did it by commenting out every line in the crontab.system - but will this be replaced again by an update or not? Its in the /app/data directory. So I think it will not?

                          I already changed my cronjob setup with a shell file. I trigger this every minute, in case its still running, it will be ignored. I will need to extend it by other optional cronjob tasks - maybe having even two or more scripts. One to run every minute (if server can handle it). And then some maintenance task that don't need to run that often.

                          Update - the current version can now be found at:
                          https://github.com/twentyZen/mautic-cronjobs

                          Myself I'm not a script or Linux Professional. Probably that approach can be improved.

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                          hey @dsp76 thanks for sharing... so if I install this shell file to my Mautic installation on Cloudron, it'll speed up the cronjobs?

                          Unfortunately I'm unable to add an .env file because on Cloudron the app is a "read only filesystem"

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                            Anything in the logs? Which mautic package are you on?

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                            @girish same problem for me as @rmdes (I know it was over a year ago, but it's what lead me to this thread)

                            cloudron v8.2.4
                            Mautic 5.2.3

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                              @jordanurbs have you tried running the cronjob manually . https://docs.cloudron.io/apps/mautic/#system-cron-jobs ? Maybe it's erroring?

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                                hey @dsp76 thanks for sharing... so if I install this shell file to my Mautic installation on Cloudron, it'll speed up the cronjobs?

                                Unfortunately I'm unable to add an .env file because on Cloudron the app is a "read only filesystem"

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                                @jordanurbs you could put those in the /app/data folder which is writeable?

                                (Ask me about B2B marketing automation & low code business solutions, if thats interesting for you.)

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