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Adjust cron jobs for Mautic... is it possible?

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  • dsp76D Offline
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    dsp76
    wrote on last edited by
    #6

    Would that mean I can add my custom script (that calls the CLI commands) and add a cronjobs for this?

    (Ask me about B2B marketing automation & low code business solutions, if thats interesting for you.)

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      girish
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      Yes, you can add your custom script that calls CLI comands in https://docs.cloudron.io/apps/mautic/#custom-cron-jobs

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      • girishG girish

        You can edit the /app/data/crontab.system patterns as you wish . See https://docs.cloudron.io/apps/mautic/#system-cron-jobs . I agree that mautic's flow of calling cron for everything is suboptimial. This is why the package made the patterns editable . In fact, for processing any task, the mautic way is to run a cronjob manually.

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        dsp76
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        @girish said in Adjust cron jobs for Mautic... is it possible?:

        You can edit the /app/data/crontab.system patterns as you wish . See https://docs.cloudron.io/apps/mautic/#system-cron-jobs . I agree that mautic's flow of calling cron for everything is suboptimial. This is why the package made the patterns editable . In fact, for processing any task, the mautic way is to run a cronjob manually.

        Will this file stay intact with every Mautic update via cloudron? Because I would then comment them out and completely replace them with custom cron jobs.

        (Ask me about B2B marketing automation & low code business solutions, if thats interesting for you.)

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          Yes the cronjobs configured via the UI will persist the update. All in all I am still unsure if its now a good or bad idea to provide default cron jobs for mautic or not. Maybe active mautic users could give some more insights on this?

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            wrote on last edited by dsp76
            #10

            We have years long experience with mautic 😉

            Its important to help with a default cronjob setup. The one from the docs work, but its not optimal. I will help setting it up in a better way together with you, if you like.

            For now it would be good, if the out of the box setup for cronjobs in cloudron could also be disabled. I did it by commenting out every line in the crontab.system - but will this be replaced again by an update or not? Its in the /app/data directory. So I think it will not?

            I already changed my cronjob setup with a shell file. I trigger this every minute, in case its still running, it will be ignored. I will need to extend it by other optional cronjob tasks - maybe having even two or more scripts. One to run every minute (if server can handle it). And then some maintenance task that don't need to run that often.

            Update - the current version can now be found at:
            https://github.com/twentyZen/mautic-cronjobs

            Myself I'm not a script or Linux Professional. Probably that approach can be improved.

            (Ask me about B2B marketing automation & low code business solutions, if thats interesting for you.)

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              #11

              For instance - whats the php memory limit on cli? Is it the same limit as for the mautic instance overall?

              (Ask me about B2B marketing automation & low code business solutions, if thats interesting for you.)

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              • dsp76D dsp76

                For instance - whats the php memory limit on cli? Is it the same limit as for the mautic instance overall?

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                girish
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                @dsp76 By default, the cli and apache have same php memory limit - 512M . If you change the memory_limit in /app/data/php.ini , it will affect both.

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                  #13

                  Any having issues with cron jobs ?

                  my segments have stopped updating automatically but I haven't touched the crontab.system or crontab.user
                  neither have I customized anything regarding cron jobs in Mautic

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                    Anything in the logs? Which mautic package are you on?

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                    • dsp76D dsp76

                      We have years long experience with mautic 😉

                      Its important to help with a default cronjob setup. The one from the docs work, but its not optimal. I will help setting it up in a better way together with you, if you like.

                      For now it would be good, if the out of the box setup for cronjobs in cloudron could also be disabled. I did it by commenting out every line in the crontab.system - but will this be replaced again by an update or not? Its in the /app/data directory. So I think it will not?

                      I already changed my cronjob setup with a shell file. I trigger this every minute, in case its still running, it will be ignored. I will need to extend it by other optional cronjob tasks - maybe having even two or more scripts. One to run every minute (if server can handle it). And then some maintenance task that don't need to run that often.

                      Update - the current version can now be found at:
                      https://github.com/twentyZen/mautic-cronjobs

                      Myself I'm not a script or Linux Professional. Probably that approach can be improved.

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                      jordanurbs
                      wrote on last edited by jordanurbs
                      #15

                      hey @dsp76 thanks for sharing... so if I install this shell file to my Mautic installation on Cloudron, it'll speed up the cronjobs?

                      Unfortunately I'm unable to add an .env file because on Cloudron the app is a "read only filesystem"

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                      • girishG girish

                        Anything in the logs? Which mautic package are you on?

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                        #16

                        @girish same problem for me as @rmdes (I know it was over a year ago, but it's what lead me to this thread)

                        cloudron v8.2.4
                        Mautic 5.2.3

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                          @jordanurbs have you tried running the cronjob manually . https://docs.cloudron.io/apps/mautic/#system-cron-jobs ? Maybe it's erroring?

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                            hey @dsp76 thanks for sharing... so if I install this shell file to my Mautic installation on Cloudron, it'll speed up the cronjobs?

                            Unfortunately I'm unable to add an .env file because on Cloudron the app is a "read only filesystem"

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                            @jordanurbs you could put those in the /app/data folder which is writeable?

                            (Ask me about B2B marketing automation & low code business solutions, if thats interesting for you.)

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