Cloudron makes it easy to run web apps like WordPress, Nextcloud, GitLab on your server. Find out more or install now.


Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • Bookmarks
  • Search
Skins
  • Light
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
Collapse
Brand Logo

Cloudron Forum

Apps | Demo | Docs | Install
  1. Cloudron Forum
  2. Matrix (Synapse/Element)
  3. We need the Matrix Authentication Service (MAS)

We need the Matrix Authentication Service (MAS)

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Matrix (Synapse/Element)
masmatrixauthentication
11 Posts 5 Posters 841 Views 6 Watching
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • jdaviescoatesJ Offline
    jdaviescoatesJ Offline
    jdaviescoates
    wrote on last edited by
    #1

    In order to take advantage of the latest Matrix features (e.g. QR code login) and use the new better Element X app etc, we need the Matrix Authentication Service (MAS) adding to the Cloudron Synapse package

    https://github.com/element-hq/matrix-authentication-service
    https://element-hq.github.io/matrix-authentication-service/
    https://github.com/element-hq/matrix-authentication-service/releases/tag/v0.12.0
    https://github.com/element-hq/matrix-authentication-service/pkgs/container/matrix-authentication-service
    https://github.com/element-hq/synapse/issues/18027#issuecomment-2571748011

    But I guess the team will understandably probably want to wait until there are a least a few more versions. Oh well.

    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

    1 Reply Last reply
    4
    • girishG Offline
      girishG Offline
      girish
      Staff
      wrote on last edited by
      #2

      I think the update at https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/12888/has-anyone-got-the-element-x-app-working-with-cloudron-matrix/8 applies here. Do you happen to know any official announcement/note from the matrix team? Not sure why this is so obscure.

      jdaviescoatesJ 1 Reply Last reply
      1
      • girishG girish

        I think the update at https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/12888/has-anyone-got-the-element-x-app-working-with-cloudron-matrix/8 applies here. Do you happen to know any official announcement/note from the matrix team? Not sure why this is so obscure.

        jdaviescoatesJ Offline
        jdaviescoatesJ Offline
        jdaviescoates
        wrote on last edited by
        #3

        @girish said in We need the Matrix Authentication Service (MAS):

        Do you happen to know any official announcement/note from the matrix team? Not sure why this is so obscure.

        The best I can offer is a friend who works for Element who told me in a matrix chat:

        "They should implement MAS in cloudron. This is the way forward."

        I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

        girishG 1 Reply Last reply
        0
        • scookeS Offline
          scookeS Offline
          scooke
          wrote on last edited by
          #4

          this-is-the-way-this-is-the-way-mandalorian.gif

          A life lived in fear is a life half-lived

          1 Reply Last reply
          2
          • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

            @girish said in We need the Matrix Authentication Service (MAS):

            Do you happen to know any official announcement/note from the matrix team? Not sure why this is so obscure.

            The best I can offer is a friend who works for Element who told me in a matrix chat:

            "They should implement MAS in cloudron. This is the way forward."

            girishG Offline
            girishG Offline
            girish
            Staff
            wrote on last edited by
            #5

            @jdaviescoates 🙂 @nebulon also attended the matrix talk in FOSDEM and they mentioned MAS is the way forward. It's in our internal task list, let's see when @vladimir.d can get to it.

            jdaviescoatesJ 1 Reply Last reply
            4
            • girishG girish

              @jdaviescoates 🙂 @nebulon also attended the matrix talk in FOSDEM and they mentioned MAS is the way forward. It's in our internal task list, let's see when @vladimir.d can get to it.

              jdaviescoatesJ Offline
              jdaviescoatesJ Offline
              jdaviescoates
              wrote on last edited by
              #6

              @girish said in We need the Matrix Authentication Service (MAS):

              It's in our internal task list, let's see when @vladimir.d can get to it.

              Great! Looking forward to it! 🤞 🙏

              I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

              1 Reply Last reply
              2
              • potemkin_aiP Offline
                potemkin_aiP Offline
                potemkin_ai
                wrote on last edited by
                #7

                @vladimir.d , @girish , is there any possible estimate on that? Would you be open to accept any help on that?

                1 Reply Last reply
                2
                • J Offline
                  J Offline
                  joseph
                  Staff
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #8

                  https://git.cloudron.io/packages/synapse-app is the package and MRs are welcome . (don't have an ETA myself)

                  potemkin_aiP 1 Reply Last reply
                  1
                  • J joseph

                    https://git.cloudron.io/packages/synapse-app is the package and MRs are welcome . (don't have an ETA myself)

                    potemkin_aiP Offline
                    potemkin_aiP Offline
                    potemkin_ai
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #9

                    @joseph thank you.

                    I'm quite limited in time to make the transition, guess I will eject the Synapse service to run it separately then: from what I've read, a separate service required to do the MAS and as the works hasn't been started yet, I guess it will take quite some time to make it to the production on Cloudron (understandable to keep things stable).

                    J 1 Reply Last reply
                    1
                    • potemkin_aiP potemkin_ai

                      @joseph thank you.

                      I'm quite limited in time to make the transition, guess I will eject the Synapse service to run it separately then: from what I've read, a separate service required to do the MAS and as the works hasn't been started yet, I guess it will take quite some time to make it to the production on Cloudron (understandable to keep things stable).

                      J Offline
                      J Offline
                      joseph
                      Staff
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #10

                      @potemkin_ai yeah, we will implement this soon enough. we use matrix for company chat ourselves. matrix.org also switched to mas per https://matrix.org/blog/2025/04/matrix-auth-service/ . matter of time @vladimir.d gets to it

                      1 Reply Last reply
                      3
                      • potemkin_aiP potemkin_ai referenced this topic on
                      • potemkin_aiP Offline
                        potemkin_aiP Offline
                        potemkin_ai
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #11

                        I believe I assembled a first version, but got stuck with OpenID auth on Cloudron side: https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/13648/openid-uri-configuration-issue-for-synapse-s-mas

                        I would appreciate any help here - it would be beneficial for the work to be done by @vladimir.d or whoever would be solving the same task.

                        1 Reply Last reply
                        3
                        Reply
                        • Reply as topic
                        Log in to reply
                        • Oldest to Newest
                        • Newest to Oldest
                        • Most Votes


                        • Login

                        • Don't have an account? Register

                        • Login or register to search.
                        • First post
                          Last post
                        0
                        • Categories
                        • Recent
                        • Tags
                        • Popular
                        • Bookmarks
                        • Search