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We need the Matrix Authentication Service (MAS)

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    • jdaviescoatesJ Offline
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      In order to take advantage of the latest Matrix features (e.g. QR code login) and use the new better Element X app etc, we need the Matrix Authentication Service (MAS) adding to the Cloudron Synapse package

      https://github.com/element-hq/matrix-authentication-service
      https://element-hq.github.io/matrix-authentication-service/
      https://github.com/element-hq/matrix-authentication-service/releases/tag/v0.12.0
      https://github.com/element-hq/matrix-authentication-service/pkgs/container/matrix-authentication-service
      https://github.com/element-hq/synapse/issues/18027#issuecomment-2571748011

      But I guess the team will understandably probably want to wait until there are a least a few more versions. Oh well.

      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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        I think the update at https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/12888/has-anyone-got-the-element-x-app-working-with-cloudron-matrix/8 applies here. Do you happen to know any official announcement/note from the matrix team? Not sure why this is so obscure.

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        • girishG girish

          I think the update at https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/12888/has-anyone-got-the-element-x-app-working-with-cloudron-matrix/8 applies here. Do you happen to know any official announcement/note from the matrix team? Not sure why this is so obscure.

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          @girish said in We need the Matrix Authentication Service (MAS):

          Do you happen to know any official announcement/note from the matrix team? Not sure why this is so obscure.

          The best I can offer is a friend who works for Element who told me in a matrix chat:

          "They should implement MAS in cloudron. This is the way forward."

          I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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            • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

              @girish said in We need the Matrix Authentication Service (MAS):

              Do you happen to know any official announcement/note from the matrix team? Not sure why this is so obscure.

              The best I can offer is a friend who works for Element who told me in a matrix chat:

              "They should implement MAS in cloudron. This is the way forward."

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              @jdaviescoates 🙂 @nebulon also attended the matrix talk in FOSDEM and they mentioned MAS is the way forward. It's in our internal task list, let's see when @vladimir.d can get to it.

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              • girishG girish

                @jdaviescoates 🙂 @nebulon also attended the matrix talk in FOSDEM and they mentioned MAS is the way forward. It's in our internal task list, let's see when @vladimir.d can get to it.

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                @girish said in We need the Matrix Authentication Service (MAS):

                It's in our internal task list, let's see when @vladimir.d can get to it.

                Great! Looking forward to it! 🤞 🙏

                I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                  @vladimir.d , @girish , is there any possible estimate on that? Would you be open to accept any help on that?

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                    https://git.cloudron.io/packages/synapse-app is the package and MRs are welcome . (don't have an ETA myself)

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                    • J joseph

                      https://git.cloudron.io/packages/synapse-app is the package and MRs are welcome . (don't have an ETA myself)

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                      @joseph thank you.

                      I'm quite limited in time to make the transition, guess I will eject the Synapse service to run it separately then: from what I've read, a separate service required to do the MAS and as the works hasn't been started yet, I guess it will take quite some time to make it to the production on Cloudron (understandable to keep things stable).

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                      • potemkin_aiP potemkin_ai

                        @joseph thank you.

                        I'm quite limited in time to make the transition, guess I will eject the Synapse service to run it separately then: from what I've read, a separate service required to do the MAS and as the works hasn't been started yet, I guess it will take quite some time to make it to the production on Cloudron (understandable to keep things stable).

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                        @potemkin_ai yeah, we will implement this soon enough. we use matrix for company chat ourselves. matrix.org also switched to mas per https://matrix.org/blog/2025/04/matrix-auth-service/ . matter of time @vladimir.d gets to it

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                          I believe I assembled a first version, but got stuck with OpenID auth on Cloudron side: https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/13648/openid-uri-configuration-issue-for-synapse-s-mas

                          I would appreciate any help here - it would be beneficial for the work to be done by @vladimir.d or whoever would be solving the same task.

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