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    wrote last edited by timconsidine
    #10

    Hmmm, my AI say my earlier comment that Seafile "is impossible to package for Cloudron" is wrong.
    So I will take a fresh look at packaging Seafile.

    S3 backend needs the PRO edition of Seafile, but I seem to recall they offered a free PRO licence for small deployments (not sure if they still do).

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      @timconsidine I remember reading about a PRO license for small business (up to 9 seats) for $100 per year (self-hosted). So not free technically, but essentially free given the value provided.

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        Partial update : despite my previous view that Seafile was not viable (currently eating humble pie), I am close to having it packaged as a custom app.
        If successful, this would be a game changer.
        The only things I don't like about Seafile are :

        • slightly dated UI, but hey ho, you get used to it and it is compensated for by working well
        • 'cloaked' file names on the underlying storage, but will work on a export/backup facility after the base package is working satisfactorily.
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          @timconsidine I remember reading about a PRO license for small business (up to 9 seats) for $100 per year (self-hosted). So not free technically, but essentially free given the value provided.

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          @crazybrad yes, I checked, they are still offering PRO for small deployments - still needs a licence but zero-cost for up to 3

          Screenshot 2026-01-07 at 12.42.46.png

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            @timconsidine You are impressive my friend. Can't believe you were able to package this so quickly. Just curious: where do you think the AI estimates are inflated? Perhaps Tim is 4x faster than others:)

            And you are 100% correct about the <= 3 scenario. I missed that.

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              @timconsidine You are impressive my friend. Can't believe you were able to package this so quickly. Just curious: where do you think the AI estimates are inflated? Perhaps Tim is 4x faster than others:)

              And you are 100% correct about the <= 3 scenario. I missed that.

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              @crazybrad don't jump to conclusions - it's not finished yet !
              May turn out to be in line with estimates, who knows.
              Will plough on - core build done but a fair few wrinkles need resolving, and of course lots of testing.

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                @timconsidine Understood. But as I recall, AI was projecting a 40+ hour effort. Perhaps the last few tasks will take a lot of time. Been there!

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                  wrote last edited by timconsidine
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                  Seafile is now packaged as a custom app.
                  https://forum.cloudron.io/post/118275

                  @crazybrad : it definitely took longer than your assistant estimated, but I didn't track how long.

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                    @timconsidine Gut feel, how much more (as a percent)? Just trying to calibrate AI as an estimating tool.

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                      @timconsidine Gut feel, how much more (as a percent)? Just trying to calibrate AI as an estimating tool.

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                      #19

                      @crazybrad I don't think more than 80.
                      Maybe 60?
                      So maybe 150% ??

                      With hindsight (or better foresight) it's always easier to do a better job, but some apps are well documented as to their install and configure process, others not so much.
                      Seafile is generally good documentation but like many apps, their attitude is "use our Docker image", rather than here's how to build.
                      So 60 hours estimate involved a lot of blundering about.
                      But done now, and I'm really happy to have Seafile available as an option (used it for 3+ years off-Cloudron).

                      About to write a companion app which will pull Seafile libraries into backup storage as native files on external storage.
                      Can never have enough backups !

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