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  • scookeS scooke

    @hakunamatata If you're able to install Cloudron, then this should be fine. There is the small step of installing Ioncube, but it's possible. Filerun has actually been one of the easiest to use php apps for me over the years. You can add files through SFTP and Terminal and the software will still see the new files and recatalogue. Updates are automatic and basically seamless. A few versions ago there was some glitch, but ever since, upgrading from within the app (no need to move/replace current files/folders with the new ones, like Moodle or Sendy) is as smooth as butter. I really like it. I do use it on it's own VPS though, just so it can use the whole server.

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    @scooke Thanks for the encouragement. I tried following the instructions here (both option 1 and option 2) but without success. 😞

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    Regarding Ioncube, the Cloudron docs say it comes installed with the LAMP app... or is this not the case?

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      @scooke Thanks for the encouragement. I tried following the instructions here (both option 1 and option 2) but without success. 😞

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      Regarding Ioncube, the Cloudron docs say it comes installed with the LAMP app... or is this not the case?

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      #16

      @hakunamatata I just gave it a try and it went smooth as butter.

      I used method 1 from https://docs.filerun.com/install_on_php#upload_to_your_server. (I've never used this method, I usually just upload the zip to my server, then move the contents to its webserver directory, but since this is Cloudron and Docker, I thought I'd try this method since it's all through the built-in SFTP and browser.)

      I downloaded the Filerun.zip (and renamed it to FileRun.zip), as well as that other file, unzip.php, which, as far as I can tell, is not nefarious.

      I uploaded both to the public directory on the LAMP app (/app/data/public), which you can navigate to using the Menu in the apps window in Cloudron:
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      You will need to delete or rename the existing index.php.

      Two spots where you may have gone wrong:

      1. I used a regular domain, as you can see in the screenshot. I did not make a folder in which to place the FileRun zip nor files. So, my FileRun is running in the root of the domain. So when I ran the command to install, it was https://filerun.example.com/unzip.php.

      The installation went smooth, using the DB info found First Time Setup, in the apps dashboard:
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      1. The second place you may go wrong (as I have plenty of times) is that whereas MySQL DBs are often located at 'localhost', on Cloudron they are usually at "mysql". So, when FileRun is asking for the DB info, replace localhost with mysql.

      Everything installed fine, and the final step is a pop-up giving you the superuser name and password. Copy that!!!!

      Login, and the app prompts for the first superuser's data directory. I just chose /app/data/filerun, and pressed, "Create" in the dialogue. The 'dialogue' I mention is a series of pop-up walk-throughs, so read them carefully. Once you've made the data directory, you're gold.

      Where do you think things didn't work for you?

      EDIT: I gotta say, this is super speedy on my server, too!!
      EDIT 2: I've turned off the app for now, too.

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      • scookeS scooke

        @hakunamatata I just gave it a try and it went smooth as butter.

        I used method 1 from https://docs.filerun.com/install_on_php#upload_to_your_server. (I've never used this method, I usually just upload the zip to my server, then move the contents to its webserver directory, but since this is Cloudron and Docker, I thought I'd try this method since it's all through the built-in SFTP and browser.)

        I downloaded the Filerun.zip (and renamed it to FileRun.zip), as well as that other file, unzip.php, which, as far as I can tell, is not nefarious.

        I uploaded both to the public directory on the LAMP app (/app/data/public), which you can navigate to using the Menu in the apps window in Cloudron:
        3d606626-09c1-4ba4-bc74-a5523bd25edc-image.png

        You will need to delete or rename the existing index.php.

        Two spots where you may have gone wrong:

        1. I used a regular domain, as you can see in the screenshot. I did not make a folder in which to place the FileRun zip nor files. So, my FileRun is running in the root of the domain. So when I ran the command to install, it was https://filerun.example.com/unzip.php.

        The installation went smooth, using the DB info found First Time Setup, in the apps dashboard:
        5d34b1f8-29a3-47dd-8aea-ec7bc3833172-image.png

        1. The second place you may go wrong (as I have plenty of times) is that whereas MySQL DBs are often located at 'localhost', on Cloudron they are usually at "mysql". So, when FileRun is asking for the DB info, replace localhost with mysql.

        Everything installed fine, and the final step is a pop-up giving you the superuser name and password. Copy that!!!!

        Login, and the app prompts for the first superuser's data directory. I just chose /app/data/filerun, and pressed, "Create" in the dialogue. The 'dialogue' I mention is a series of pop-up walk-throughs, so read them carefully. Once you've made the data directory, you're gold.

        Where do you think things didn't work for you?

        EDIT: I gotta say, this is super speedy on my server, too!!
        EDIT 2: I've turned off the app for now, too.

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        @scooke Thanks alot of the guide! I was able to install it successfully this time. The issue seems to be that I was previously trying to install the files in a newly created /my-files/ folder vs in /public/. Things went smoothly thereafter and I have tweaked some of the settings to fit my use case.
        Have you been able to get email working? When I try to configure the smtp settings, the admin panel just hangs and the only way out is to restart the app.

        But overall the product is looking really good and lightning fast as you say! 😁

        Thanks again!

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        • H hakunamatata

          @scooke Thanks alot of the guide! I was able to install it successfully this time. The issue seems to be that I was previously trying to install the files in a newly created /my-files/ folder vs in /public/. Things went smoothly thereafter and I have tweaked some of the settings to fit my use case.
          Have you been able to get email working? When I try to configure the smtp settings, the admin panel just hangs and the only way out is to restart the app.

          But overall the product is looking really good and lightning fast as you say! 😁

          Thanks again!

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          scooke
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          #18

          @hakunamatata Good to hear. Are you using an email address whose domain is hosted on Cloudron, in which case I think you should be able to use the Email notifications box and enter your Cloudron-based email. Or something else, in which case you need to check the box for Use a SMTP server.

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          • H hakunamatata

            @scooke Thanks alot of the guide! I was able to install it successfully this time. The issue seems to be that I was previously trying to install the files in a newly created /my-files/ folder vs in /public/. Things went smoothly thereafter and I have tweaked some of the settings to fit my use case.
            Have you been able to get email working? When I try to configure the smtp settings, the admin panel just hangs and the only way out is to restart the app.

            But overall the product is looking really good and lightning fast as you say! 😁

            Thanks again!

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            @hakunamatata I just discovered that setting a Rule for email notifications is available only in the Enterprise Edition. Is that what you are running?
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            • H hakunamatata

              @scooke Thanks alot of the guide! I was able to install it successfully this time. The issue seems to be that I was previously trying to install the files in a newly created /my-files/ folder vs in /public/. Things went smoothly thereafter and I have tweaked some of the settings to fit my use case.
              Have you been able to get email working? When I try to configure the smtp settings, the admin panel just hangs and the only way out is to restart the app.

              But overall the product is looking really good and lightning fast as you say! 😁

              Thanks again!

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              @hakunamatata One last reply... I filled in the SMPT settings, and tested it, and it worked with my Cloudron settings, and I could save it, no hanging, BUT, it seems like it's useless anyway since I can't setup Notifications since I don't have the Enterprise edition. Sorry I can't help you with why your admin email panel hangs.

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              • girishG girish

                @hakunamatata FileRun's owner Vlad took a look at packaging for Cloudron recently. Cloudron's update model and FileRun's update model are at cross roads , so it was decided to revisit publishing this to app store at a later date. For the moment, the best way is to deploy FileRun using the lamp app and manage FileRun updates from inside the app itself.

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                @girish said in Filerun - Self-Hosted File Sync and Sharing:

                @hakunamatata FileRun's owner Vlad took a look at packaging for Cloudron recently. Cloudron's update model and FileRun's update model are at cross roads , so it was decided to revisit publishing this to app store at a later date. For the moment, the best way is to deploy FileRun using the lamp app and manage FileRun updates from inside the app itself.

                Great, though I believe it should be reminded that this package is not open source and, AFAIK, seems to be running encrypted files on the server, plus the 'free' version runs only with limitations in number of users, which is only 3 plus 10 if you somehow ask for it, and features.

                I think it would also be a good idea to 'mark' in a way or another these type of apps from the repository so one knows in advance the software is not open source, and even when it uses encrypted files set.

                All IMHO, of course. Cheers!

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                • scookeS scooke

                  @hakunamatata One last reply... I filled in the SMPT settings, and tested it, and it worked with my Cloudron settings, and I could save it, no hanging, BUT, it seems like it's useless anyway since I can't setup Notifications since I don't have the Enterprise edition. Sorry I can't help you with why your admin email panel hangs.

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                  @scooke Silly me had entered the wrong port and the admin panel freezes instead of displaying an error. Seems like it may be a bug in Filerun. But everything is working for me now.
                  I don't have an enterprise license, I am just evaluating the product.

                  While I am overall quite impressed with Filerun, it is not open source as pointed out by @micmc so I am hesitant to committing to it just yet. My preference is always to put my money towards the development of FOSS projects when possible. I recently hired a developer full-time to work on some projects for me and I am considering having him help out with the development of Cubby during his "down time" or a certain number of hours per week, assuming he has the skillset. We shall see how this unfolds.

                  Thanks again for your assistance with getting Filerun set-up!

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                    I gave this a shot in the LAMP app as well and have replaced my need for Nextcloud with Filerun.

                    Since I don't have a need for any of Nextcloud's apps using Filerun just makes more sense. Filerun is compatible with the nextcloud mobile and desktop apps for file sync as well!

                    So far it's much faster for that too - however there are no Nextcloud apps / plugins. (But I don't need them, like I said above so it's not a big deal to me.)

                    If you need Nextcloud but only need to do file sync, and don't need apps, Filerun is really worthy of recommendation and consideration.

                    Not sure how to package this for cloudron, but in the LAMP app it works as expected.

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                    • murgeroM murgero

                      I gave this a shot in the LAMP app as well and have replaced my need for Nextcloud with Filerun.

                      Since I don't have a need for any of Nextcloud's apps using Filerun just makes more sense. Filerun is compatible with the nextcloud mobile and desktop apps for file sync as well!

                      So far it's much faster for that too - however there are no Nextcloud apps / plugins. (But I don't need them, like I said above so it's not a big deal to me.)

                      If you need Nextcloud but only need to do file sync, and don't need apps, Filerun is really worthy of recommendation and consideration.

                      Not sure how to package this for cloudron, but in the LAMP app it works as expected.

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                      @murgero said in Filerun - Self-Hosted File Sync and Sharing:

                      Filerun is compatible with the nextcloud mobile and desktop apps for file sync as well!

                      How so? What do you do in the app?

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                      • robiR robi

                        @murgero said in Filerun - Self-Hosted File Sync and Sharing:

                        Filerun is compatible with the nextcloud mobile and desktop apps for file sync as well!

                        How so? What do you do in the app?

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                        @robi The webdav server that filerun uses is compatible with Nextcloud's desktop and mobile apps (as in the sync tool for nextcloud, not the apps you install in nextcloud)

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                        • murgeroM murgero

                          @robi The webdav server that filerun uses is compatible with Nextcloud's desktop and mobile apps (as in the sync tool for nextcloud, not the apps you install in nextcloud)

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                          @murgero Got it, thanks, had a feeling that was webdav related!

                          That also means it should be easily mountable as a network drive in Windows/MacOS.

                          Conscious tech

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                          • robiR robi

                            @murgero Got it, thanks, had a feeling that was webdav related!

                            That also means it should be easily mountable as a network drive in Windows/MacOS.

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                            @robi Hopefully easier than Nextcloud for WebDav mounting too, as I still have an issue that makes it useless with Windows:

                            • https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/6514/windows-can-connect-to-nextcloud-webdav-but-then-loses-the-connection-and-can-t-reconnect

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                              @robi Hopefully easier than Nextcloud for WebDav mounting too, as I still have an issue that makes it useless with Windows:

                              • https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/6514/windows-can-connect-to-nextcloud-webdav-but-then-loses-the-connection-and-can-t-reconnect
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                              @marcusquinn oh right, try it out! If you don't have Filerun installed, I can offer mine for you to test with. Ping me off forum.

                              Conscious tech

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                                @robi Hopefully easier than Nextcloud for WebDav mounting too, as I still have an issue that makes it useless with Windows:

                                • https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/6514/windows-can-connect-to-nextcloud-webdav-but-then-loses-the-connection-and-can-t-reconnect
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                                @marcusquinn So far it has not given me that issue (webdav issue you are having) - seems fine so far.

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                                  Does the OnlyOffice plugin work on the free version of Filerun?

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                                  • WiseMetalheadW WiseMetalhead

                                    Does the OnlyOffice plugin work on the free version of Filerun?

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                                    @WiseMetalhead No. Filerun does not support Nextcloud plugins

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                                    • murgeroM murgero

                                      @WiseMetalhead No. Filerun does not support Nextcloud plugins

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                                      @murgero said in Filerun - Self-Hosted File Sync and Sharing:

                                      @WiseMetalhead No. Filerun does not support Nextcloud plugins

                                      I'm sorry, I meant the integrations built into Filerun.
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                                      • WiseMetalheadW WiseMetalhead

                                        @murgero said in Filerun - Self-Hosted File Sync and Sharing:

                                        @WiseMetalhead No. Filerun does not support Nextcloud plugins

                                        I'm sorry, I meant the integrations built into Filerun.
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                                        @WiseMetalhead It is working fine on my instance.

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                                        • WiseMetalheadW WiseMetalhead

                                          @murgero said in Filerun - Self-Hosted File Sync and Sharing:

                                          @WiseMetalhead No. Filerun does not support Nextcloud plugins

                                          I'm sorry, I meant the integrations built into Filerun.
                                          Screenshot_20220314-165938_Chrome.jpg

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                                          @WiseMetalhead Oh I didn't even see those! I'd assume it works if you can install it

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