Mailpiler - self hosted email archive

[timconsidine]

@luckow this makes sense ... except I don't understand why an archive solution would need SMTP for sending. It just needs its own incoming email capability, and the always_bcc means it will get a copy of all inbound and outbound emails from the primary 'working' email server.
But maybe (as is often the case) I am not understanding the full picture.

[luckow]

@timconsidine as I understand it, the smtp port of the archive solution is only relevant for receiving the bcc mails. The user uses the "normal" (in this case the Cloudron) smtp server for sending emails via webmail or the local mail client. And Cloudron smtp forwards/sends any incoming or outgoing mail via smtp to the archive solution. That is the magic in my understanding

[timconsidine]

@luckow thank you
I just didn't know inbound can even be done via SMTP. Either my bad knowledge, or non-standard config.

[luckow]

@timconsidine worth reading https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_Mail_Transfer_Protocol

[timconsidine]

@vladimir-d whoop whoop !
Just built, pushed and installed your updated package of Mailpiler.
All went smoothly.
Now I have to set it up and learn it.
Thank you so much !

[marcusquinn]

@timconsidine Nice, more the merrier!

It's definitely another app that can help win mindshare for Cloudron as an enterprise considerate solution with this sort of auditing. Especially when it can be setup as a separate Cloudron instance too for further risk spreading.

[timconsidine]

@marcusquinn agreed.
I totally agree. Have tried some archiving solutions previously and mailpiler looks nice.
But I having a "thick" morning :

• looking through app and their online docs, I can't what address emails should be BCC'ed to. Is it staring me in the face and I can't see it? Do I have to set it up ?

• importing from a server doesn't specify a port number to access IMAP on, so test connection always fails, and it doesn't specify SSL/STARTTLS

I'm embarrassed by these basic questions, but if someone can nudge me in the right direction, I'd appreciate it.

[marcusquinn]

@timconsidine We haven't got to out setup and migration yet, working on 6 things at once, as always! Will bear in mind and answer when we do get to it.

[timconsidine]

@marcusquinn no problem, stumbling through it
Testing some configs
Another Q for later : what is a "mapped domain" when setting up a domain? Can't find any references to it.
No rush.

[marcusquinn]

@jsuto You still with us here? Maybe someone can email him if the forum doesn't?

[necrevistonnezr]

@marcusquinn
BTW does Mailpiler have any sort of compression? I recently tried to switch from the gold standard MailStore Home to another solution (in an attempt to ditch my Windows VM for good) - and my 30 GB MailStore Archive went up to 110 GB(!) in mbox files!

[marcusquinn]

@necrevistonnezr Don't know yet but will post some stats when I get to it. The project I have with it is for years of company email archives, so will have some good stats to compare from source to destination.

I might research file-system level deduplication, as I imagine there's a lot of duplicate files from email threads.

[mazarian]

Just thought I'd chime in and say I'm very interested in a mail archive solution.

[necrevistonnezr]

@marcusquinn said in Mailpiler - self hosted email archive:

@necrevistonnezr Don't know yet but will post some stats when I get to it. The project I have with it is for years of company email archives, so will have some good stats to compare from source to destination.

I might research file-system level deduplication, as I imagine there's a lot of duplicate files from email threads.

Is this still in the works or in a beta stage to be installed?

[marcusquinn]

@necrevistonnezr Hey, we have it working, need to ask @vladimir-d to commit to Cloudron's GitLab and let the team verify it's good to go for App Store inclusion.

[Neiluj]

Hi all,
I am wondering if we are far away from an addition of mailpiler to the Cloudron app repository. It would be of great help in a couple of the situation I am facing atm.
@vladimir-d Maybe you have had the chance to commit the working app version to Clourdon's GitLab already

If I can help (within the remit of my abilities) or contribute in making this happen, I would be happy to do so.

[girish]

I am happy to include this if we have something basic going . @marcusquinn @vladimir-d do you have any initial work here ?

[vladimir.d]

@girish here is some initial work.
https://git.cloudron.io/vladimir.d/mailpiler

TBH I didn't have a chance to complete it yet, I think the issue described here still needs to be addressed.

[savity]

@vladimir-d Would be awesome to get this working... Since the LAW in austria and germany for this hase been activate now for i think 2 Years. That you need a Mail Archive where you can proof the Mail is not changed....

https://www.bfdi.bund.de/DE/Buerger/Inhalte/Finanzen-Steuern/ABC_GoBD.html

[marcusquinn]

@savity As an alternative, you can achieve pretty-much the same thing with EspoCRM, as that will import emails to give you the same duplicate data in an alternative place.