Wireguard VPN

[nebulon]

@kallados quite frankly if you have 6 figures yearly for that, then this is easily solvable with providing your own solution to the problem. No need to get Cloudron involved here for 15$/mth. I am sure, it will be just a bunch of shell scripts.

@marcusquinn the glass ceiling is simply time on our side. Technically providing such a package for Cloudron is often not far out, but initial work to a proper package following our requirements and especially ongoing maintenance and support requires time. It is not like we don't package apps for the fun of blocking our users. By now most of our time is spent in updating apps so they can be rolled out, without breaking all the time. Often debugging one app for one update eats many hours.

Further, one can already create custom packages for Cloudron, running cloudron build && cloudron install inside that folder solves it already. If those packages are well written, then we have picked them up in the past and pulled them into our supported library after some required polish. We will soon work on a better solution to have these available for others without required commandline knowledge. We hope to remove us a bit as the bottleneck then, afterall our business is not selling app packages and the support for those, but the platform to run them.

[kallados]

@nebulon

This WG Implementation is not the only task in the budget Maybe the wrong way I expressed myself. We are working on it. But it won't be open source and I find that a pity.

No matter what, such a solution under Cloudron would be usable for many I think. Straight for our customer not, but there are many out there who would like to use it-me included. I see a similarity here as with Bitwarden. I used Bitwarden under Cloudron for a long time. Super easy, no hassle and with my own server. The same would be possible with WG.

[marcusquinn]

@kallados Worth searching the forum here for "Mesh VPN" too, as there's a few apps on the wishlist that also use Wireguard behind the scenes to make Wireguard private networking super-easy to administer.

[robi]

@marcusquinn Yes, such as TailScale which Umbrel uses by default for securing access to itself.

[marcusquinn]

@nebulon Just a thought, maybe we're thinking in the wrong direction, and there should be a reduction of apps that are costing you too much maintenance time, if there's better alternatives also available?

[jayonrails]

@girish is there any news on a Wireguard implementation for Cloudron?

[ajtatum]

Would be great to have wg-easy...

[dylightful]

@ajtatum been waiting for years, always overlooked. Hosting wg-easy is just good these days anyway...

[dylightful]

[kymj8]

I found an update here.

@girish said in What's coming in 7.5:

Unfortunately, the wireguard/openvpn integration has to be done in 7.6 . It's a pretty big feature and it's unlikely to be done in 7.5 timeframe.

But it was also listed in 7.3 announcement 14 months ago.

@girish said in What's coming in 7.3:

OpenVPN/Wireguard integration

And this original request here dates back to 2019.
Consider the number upvotes it would be nice to see some better communication on this; Maybe in this thread.

[RoundHouse1924]

4 years down the line and now the top voted-for outstanding item in the App Wishlist.

Although Wireguard is perhaps "not enterprise-ready", as suggested by OPNsense on Twitter, it is surely vastly superior to OpenVPN:-
https://twitter.com/opnsense/status/1654516200896884741?s=20

@staff
Please, please keep this app at the top of your new apps queue.

Very much looking forwards to the release day!

[BrutalBirdie]

@RoundHouse1924
See: https://forum.cloudron.io/post/66248

[robi]

Does it make sense to start a beta yet?

[girish]

Just taking stock of existing UIs before we roll our own (like openvpn):

• https://github.com/EmbarkStudios/wg-ui is archived
• https://github.com/stv0g/wiretrustee is unmaintained
• https://github.com/wg-easy/wg-easy hasn't seen changes in 5-6 months
• https://github.com/subspacecloud/subspace is unmaintained . The fork which aimed to maintain it at https://github.com/subspacecommunity/subspace is also unmaintained
• On a side, headscale UIs are all in alpha . From what I understand headscale app is different use case from wireguard app.

https://github.com/ngoduykhanh/wireguard-ui is running good so far and possibly the only candidate! Let me know if I missed something.

[robi]

WG-Easy just works and is simple like OpenVPN UI, neither of which have many changes needed.

[necrevistonnezr]

Maybe also relevant:

@girish said in Wireguard VPN:

• https://github.com/wg-easy/wg-easy hasn't seen changes in 5-6 months

https://github.com/ngoduykhanh/wireguard-ui is running good so far and possibly the only candidate! Let me know if I missed something.

[dylightful]

Can we expect one of the most voted for applications in 2024?

[3246]

Has anyone attempted to repackage WG-Easy or UI already? (ref. https://docs.cloudron.io/packaging/tutorial/)

[girish]

@3246 wg-easy is archived now - https://github.com/WeeJeWel/wg-easy

[imc67]

@girish the one you mentioned was a fork, the original one is still active:

https://github.com/wg-easy/wg-easy