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  • @fbartels I had another little play with the Kopano demo (which looked different from how I remembered it, so maybe I was thinking about some other demo I used recently) but nevertheless couldn't see any way of organising mail using virtual folders/ labels/ whatever you want to call them (the demo was that useful as a demo as so little mail there to try anything with - nothing in the inbox - and email doesn't actually seem to get sent - but I clicked on and/ or hovered over everything and didn't appear to have these features as far as I could tell)


  • @girish said in What's coming in 4.5:

    One idea was maybe to let people choose rsync just for nextcloud (so per-app backup format). I prefer not to add options like this, it's too complex to explain.

    I like this idea and don't find it particularly complex either 🙂

    I'd use rsync for Nexcloud and Surfer and tgz for everything else.


  • @girish said in What's coming in 4.5:

    But for nextcloud, people are storing upwards of 100G

    Even if a more suitable backup format is found for this usecase, working with those apps in terms of cloning for staging etc will be a pain.

    I’m currently looking into external object storage for content, offloading it compleyely from Cloudron.

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    @yusf Doesn't nextcloud already support external object storage (SFTP/S3/Dropbox etc)? What do you need from Cloudron ? Or do you want to mount an external disk into nextcloud with the external storage app ? That is indeed not possible today.


  • @girish Yes, exactly. It would come down to each app’s ability to support external storage. Which is fine by me. That way I can move and manipulate the then lightweight app, but I have to solve content backup in some other way.

  • App Dev

    Yes, I won't claim the web client is perfect, but basic also does not seem to be the right word for it.

    @jdaviescoates said in What's coming in 4.5:

    but nevertheless couldn't see any way of organising mail using virtual folders/ labels/ whatever you want to call them

    You can do searches and "store" these to easily rerun them later. Its similar to how the the Outlook fat client is doing it.


  • @girish said in What's coming in 4.5:

    One idea was maybe to let people choose rsync just for nextcloud (so per-app backup format). I prefer not to add options like this, it's too complex to explain.

    I now support this too. rsync makes sense for some apps, but not for others.


  • @fbartels said in What's coming in 4.5:

    Yes, I won't claim the web client is perfect, but basic also does not seem to be the right word for it.

    When I went back to try the demo again it wasn't how I remembered it, so I think I was mis-remembering and confusing it with some other product/ suite I've demoed recently too 🙂 (either that or the demo changed quite a lot in the intervening period, but I think more likely the former)

    @fbartels said in What's coming in 4.5:

    You can do searches and "store" these to easily rerun them later. Its similar to how the the Outlook fat client is doing it.

    Ah, I see.

    I haven't used Outlook anything since I started running Linux about 20 years ago! 🙂

    I used to use Thunderbird with IMAP servers run by geeky friends (for free). But my friends never really got spam filtering in place (they had SpamAssassin installed, but it was never trained well enough - fair enough given they were offering a completely free service) and eventually spam drove me to Gmail (I was getting about 1000 a day!).

    But I (and many many others) now expect to be able to very simply add labels to emails in order to easily organise them into virtual folders. Given the domination of Gmail it surprises me that more open source webmail projects don't try to more to clone more of some of Gmail's "basic" features. I guess it's just a matter of lack of resources in the open source world 😕


  • Any updates on the roll out of 4.5? Looking forward to the CPU limits by app.

  • App Dev

    Group-/sub- admin accounts remain high on my list and I certainly look forward to seeing that in 4.5. Overall, this is a really good list of features that is clearly being developed and prioritized with a lot of weight to community feedback, which I think deserves some major applause!


  • @jimcavoli Agree, here here! 3 cheers for Cloudron devs!


  • @jdaviescoates said in What's coming in 4.5:

    @girish said in What's coming in 4.5:

    Roundcube got a facelift recently, check it out!

    I have. Nice, but I can't live without virtual folders/ label based folders/ saved searches/ whatever you want to call them.

    I note, however, that "Virtual folders (aka saved searches)" are one of their planned features, so hopefully they'll be available sooner rather than later! 🙂

    There's a new Roundcube Plugin available for message labels:

    https://plugins.roundcube.net/packages/kreapptivo/message_label
    https://github.com/kreapptivo/message_label

    Introduction

    This is plugin for roundcube to add labels like Google labels.

    • manually and filter way add labels
    • manually remove filter find labels
    • multilabels support
    • drag and drop to add label support
    • remove label on one click on label in subject
    • search all labels in all folder on one click (manual select folder search on filter search label)
    • display label list on left panel under folder list*

  • @necrevistonnezr excellent, will have to try out, thanks!


  • @girish said in What's coming in 4.5:

    Per-app backup format.

    This didn't seem to make it into "4.5" aka 5.0 nor yet into 5.1.1 - hoping it's still on the roadmap?

    Would love to be able to use rsync for e.g. Nextcloud and Surfer (where I'd like to upload many GBs of mostly PDFs) whilst continuing to use tgz for most other apps.

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    @jdaviescoates Won't make it to 5.1, we have to revisit this for 5.2. Currently, we just want to get the video meet apps out + bitwarden.


  • @girish said in What's coming in 4.5:

    Won't make it to 5.1, we have to revisit this for 5.2.

    No worries.

    @girish said in What's coming in 4.5:

    Currently, we just want to get the video meet apps out + bitwarden.

    Excellent plan, sounds good to me 🙂


  • Mail FTS would be really cool and extremely useful. Is this still being looked at/worked on?

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    @Mallewax FTS is in our plans. The last we checked it required Java/Lucene and so we dropped it until we updated our base images. In 5.2 (released now but not available for existing installations), we have updated the base image. So, maybe we will relook into FTS for the next release.


  • @girish Sounds promising, Girish. Thanks for the update. I responded to another post from @mehdi in which he pointed at https://www.meilisearch.com/. Not sure if this is something....