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What's coming in 4.5

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  • fbartelsF fbartels

    Yes, I won't claim the web client is perfect, but basic also does not seem to be the right word for it.

    @jdaviescoates said in What's coming in 4.5:

    but nevertheless couldn't see any way of organising mail using virtual folders/ labels/ whatever you want to call them

    You can do searches and "store" these to easily rerun them later. Its similar to how the the Outlook fat client is doing it.

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    @fbartels said in What's coming in 4.5:

    Yes, I won't claim the web client is perfect, but basic also does not seem to be the right word for it.

    When I went back to try the demo again it wasn't how I remembered it, so I think I was mis-remembering and confusing it with some other product/ suite I've demoed recently too 🙂 (either that or the demo changed quite a lot in the intervening period, but I think more likely the former)

    @fbartels said in What's coming in 4.5:

    You can do searches and "store" these to easily rerun them later. Its similar to how the the Outlook fat client is doing it.

    Ah, I see.

    I haven't used Outlook anything since I started running Linux about 20 years ago! 🙂

    I used to use Thunderbird with IMAP servers run by geeky friends (for free). But my friends never really got spam filtering in place (they had SpamAssassin installed, but it was never trained well enough - fair enough given they were offering a completely free service) and eventually spam drove me to Gmail (I was getting about 1000 a day!).

    But I (and many many others) now expect to be able to very simply add labels to emails in order to easily organise them into virtual folders. Given the domination of Gmail it surprises me that more open source webmail projects don't try to more to clone more of some of Gmail's "basic" features. I guess it's just a matter of lack of resources in the open source world 😕

    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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      Any updates on the roll out of 4.5? Looking forward to the CPU limits by app.

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        Group-/sub- admin accounts remain high on my list and I certainly look forward to seeing that in 4.5. Overall, this is a really good list of features that is clearly being developed and prioritized with a lot of weight to community feedback, which I think deserves some major applause!

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        • jimcavoliJ jimcavoli

          Group-/sub- admin accounts remain high on my list and I certainly look forward to seeing that in 4.5. Overall, this is a really good list of features that is clearly being developed and prioritized with a lot of weight to community feedback, which I think deserves some major applause!

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          @jimcavoli Agree, here here! 3 cheers for Cloudron devs!

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          • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

            @girish said in What's coming in 4.5:

            Roundcube got a facelift recently, check it out!

            I have. Nice, but I can't live without virtual folders/ label based folders/ saved searches/ whatever you want to call them.

            I note, however, that "Virtual folders (aka saved searches)" are one of their planned features, so hopefully they'll be available sooner rather than later! 🙂

            Edit: I'd also really miss being able to search my Email like I can search Gmail, e.g. in:sent has:attachment etc - so I guess Mail fts search would be big a step in that direction?

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            @jdaviescoates said in What's coming in 4.5:

            @girish said in What's coming in 4.5:

            Roundcube got a facelift recently, check it out!

            I have. Nice, but I can't live without virtual folders/ label based folders/ saved searches/ whatever you want to call them.

            I note, however, that "Virtual folders (aka saved searches)" are one of their planned features, so hopefully they'll be available sooner rather than later! 🙂

            There's a new Roundcube Plugin available for message labels:

            https://plugins.roundcube.net/packages/kreapptivo/message_label
            https://github.com/kreapptivo/message_label

            Introduction

            This is plugin for roundcube to add labels like Google labels.

            • manually and filter way add labels
            • manually remove filter find labels
            • multilabels support
            • drag and drop to add label support
            • remove label on one click on label in subject
            • search all labels in all folder on one click (manual select folder search on filter search label)
            • display label list on left panel under folder list*
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            • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

              @jdaviescoates said in What's coming in 4.5:

              @girish said in What's coming in 4.5:

              Roundcube got a facelift recently, check it out!

              I have. Nice, but I can't live without virtual folders/ label based folders/ saved searches/ whatever you want to call them.

              I note, however, that "Virtual folders (aka saved searches)" are one of their planned features, so hopefully they'll be available sooner rather than later! 🙂

              There's a new Roundcube Plugin available for message labels:

              https://plugins.roundcube.net/packages/kreapptivo/message_label
              https://github.com/kreapptivo/message_label

              Introduction

              This is plugin for roundcube to add labels like Google labels.

              • manually and filter way add labels
              • manually remove filter find labels
              • multilabels support
              • drag and drop to add label support
              • remove label on one click on label in subject
              • search all labels in all folder on one click (manual select folder search on filter search label)
              • display label list on left panel under folder list*
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              @necrevistonnezr excellent, will have to try out, thanks!

              I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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              • girishG girish

                For the coming weeks, our focus is simply to get more of the apps out. bitwardern/jitsi/matrix etc are in various states and we want to get those out asap.

                We are working on some ideas on the Cloudron side:

                • Mail fts search - This will be optional since the dovecot+solr integration takes a lot of memory.
                • Mail server queue and reports - This is just a UI to get an insight into what emails are incoming and outgoing on the mail server
                • Mail spam controls - This will tackle the popular "Spams are still getting through" reports 🙂
                • CPU resource allocation - Currently, you can control memory per app. This will allow you to control the CPU allocation as well.
                • Firewall API
                  • This will allow setting up basic application firewall rules. This is not clear yet but we will build on top of modsecurity/fail2ban potentially.
                  • For email, this will have whitelist/blacklist
                • Backup - listing, download and remove API and UI (for box and the apps).
                • Per-app backup format.
                • Group admins - The idea here is to create "sub admins" who can invite users but cannot control server level settings like backups.
                • Whitelabel the footer/404
                • App specific passwords

                BTW, if you have comments/suggestions, feel free to open a thread in the Discuss section or comment here for any clarification

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                @girish said in What's coming in 4.5:

                Per-app backup format.

                This didn't seem to make it into "4.5" aka 5.0 nor yet into 5.1.1 - hoping it's still on the roadmap?

                Would love to be able to use rsync for e.g. Nextcloud and Surfer (where I'd like to upload many GBs of mostly PDFs) whilst continuing to use tgz for most other apps.

                I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                  @jdaviescoates Won't make it to 5.1, we have to revisit this for 5.2. Currently, we just want to get the video meet apps out + bitwarden.

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                  • girishG girish

                    @jdaviescoates Won't make it to 5.1, we have to revisit this for 5.2. Currently, we just want to get the video meet apps out + bitwarden.

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                    @girish said in What's coming in 4.5:

                    Won't make it to 5.1, we have to revisit this for 5.2.

                    No worries.

                    @girish said in What's coming in 4.5:

                    Currently, we just want to get the video meet apps out + bitwarden.

                    Excellent plan, sounds good to me 🙂

                    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                      Mallewax
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                      Mail FTS would be really cool and extremely useful. Is this still being looked at/worked on?

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                        @Mallewax FTS is in our plans. The last we checked it required Java/Lucene and so we dropped it until we updated our base images. In 5.2 (released now but not available for existing installations), we have updated the base image. So, maybe we will relook into FTS for the next release.

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                        • girishG girish

                          @Mallewax FTS is in our plans. The last we checked it required Java/Lucene and so we dropped it until we updated our base images. In 5.2 (released now but not available for existing installations), we have updated the base image. So, maybe we will relook into FTS for the next release.

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                          @girish Sounds promising, Girish. Thanks for the update. I responded to another post from @mehdi in which he pointed at https://www.meilisearch.com/. Not sure if this is something....

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