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  • LonkleL Lonkle

    @moocloud_matt I only use Cloudron for personal / development purposes. My production Wordpress installation (hosted elsewhere) uses OLS so it'd be nice to use my Cloudron installation to have the same stack for testing purposes. Would you mind sharing the image with me as well? 🙂

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    MooCloud_Matt
    wrote on last edited by
    #29

    @lonk
    Yes, ofc!

    just contact me on the cloudron chat: @MooCloud-Matt.

    Matteo. R.
    Founder and Tech-Support Manager.
    MooCloud MSP
    Swiss Managed Service Provider

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    • MooCloud_MattM MooCloud_Matt

      @marcusquinn
      Hey Marcus,

      yes and no, OLS/LS is objectively more efficient over apache, and this make it more performant then apache.
      Berceuse as Nginx it can serve static file without wake up a php, that apache is using for every request on a WP.
      But as i already say sometimes a good server lvl optimization of nginx is performing as well but is not easy to setup, OLS or LS offer LSCache to do all the config from WP dashboard.

      WP plugin are not the best way to go, because they just let the call be managed by a PHP, many like Cache enabler, just create a HTML copy of the website, that is more performant no elaboration needed by db or php, but if you use apache you will wake up PHP anyway so CPU and RAM wasted.

      @ruihildt
      We are in Open Beta for OLS, if you want we can provide you the image.
      But for now the code is closed sourse, it will be realise with a custom licenses that is open source but not commercially usable by MSP or ISP to offer WordPress as a Service or PaaS.

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      micmc
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      #30

      @moocloud_matt said in OpenLiteSpeed Wordpress:

      @ruihildt
      We are in Open Beta for OLS, if you want we can provide you the image.
      But for now the code is closed sourse, it will be realise with a custom licenses that is open source but not commercially usable by MSP or ISP to offer WordPress as a Service or PaaS.

      As far as I know, 'OPENLiteSpeed' is the OPEN version of LiteSpeed server and is licensed under GPL3 which means you cannot take this OPEN SOURCE software, go away with it and close the code for you and your licking.

      To give an idea this is the preamble that MUST be included in each file's header:

      <one line to give the program's name and a brief idea of what it does.>
          Copyright (C) <year>  <name of author>
      
          This program is free software: you can redistribute it and/or modify
          it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by
          the Free Software Foundation, either version 3 of the License, or
          (at your option) any later version.
      
          This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
          but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
          MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the
          GNU General Public License for more details.
      
          You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
          along with this program.  If not, see <https://www.gnu.org/licenses/>.
      
      

      Even before reading the terms of the license, this preamble says it all.

      I recommend you read carefully the terms of General PUBLIC Licenses 1, 2, and 3 and if you don't understand then ask for legal advice from law people if you do not want to risk to get into hot-water, because in light of what you are saying this is something you cannot do. Jtlyk.

      Andy

      Ignorance is not an excuse anymore!
      https://AutomateKit.com

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      • micmcM micmc

        @moocloud_matt said in OpenLiteSpeed Wordpress:

        @ruihildt
        We are in Open Beta for OLS, if you want we can provide you the image.
        But for now the code is closed sourse, it will be realise with a custom licenses that is open source but not commercially usable by MSP or ISP to offer WordPress as a Service or PaaS.

        As far as I know, 'OPENLiteSpeed' is the OPEN version of LiteSpeed server and is licensed under GPL3 which means you cannot take this OPEN SOURCE software, go away with it and close the code for you and your licking.

        To give an idea this is the preamble that MUST be included in each file's header:

        <one line to give the program's name and a brief idea of what it does.>
            Copyright (C) <year>  <name of author>
        
            This program is free software: you can redistribute it and/or modify
            it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by
            the Free Software Foundation, either version 3 of the License, or
            (at your option) any later version.
        
            This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
            but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
            MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the
            GNU General Public License for more details.
        
            You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
            along with this program.  If not, see <https://www.gnu.org/licenses/>.
        
        

        Even before reading the terms of the license, this preamble says it all.

        I recommend you read carefully the terms of General PUBLIC Licenses 1, 2, and 3 and if you don't understand then ask for legal advice from law people if you do not want to risk to get into hot-water, because in light of what you are saying this is something you cannot do. Jtlyk.

        Andy

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        MooCloud_Matt
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        @micmc
        We are not closing OLS, but the other code on the image, that we have written and develop, like the cli interface.

        Docker image (dockerfile), cloudron.manifest file and the software that they contain can have different license in any case.

        Matteo. R.
        Founder and Tech-Support Manager.
        MooCloud MSP
        Swiss Managed Service Provider

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        • MooCloud_MattM MooCloud_Matt

          @micmc
          We are not closing OLS, but the other code on the image, that we have written and develop, like the cli interface.

          Docker image (dockerfile), cloudron.manifest file and the software that they contain can have different license in any case.

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          micmc
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          #32

          @moocloud_matt said in OpenLiteSpeed Wordpress:

          @micmc
          We are not closing OLS,

          Yet, this is what YOU said/wrote, I can read loll

          @ruihildt
          We are in Open Beta for OLS, if you want we can
          provide you the image.
          But >>for now the code is closed sourse<<

          Cheers!
          Andy

          Ignorance is not an excuse anymore!
          https://AutomateKit.com

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          • micmcM micmc

            @moocloud_matt said in OpenLiteSpeed Wordpress:

            @micmc
            We are not closing OLS,

            Yet, this is what YOU said/wrote, I can read loll

            @ruihildt
            We are in Open Beta for OLS, if you want we can
            provide you the image.
            But >>for now the code is closed sourse<<

            Cheers!
            Andy

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            MooCloud_Matt
            wrote on last edited by MooCloud_Matt
            #33

            @micmc
            Is been always the same, we previously have use OLS as moocloud app of OLS that use a custom image that include proprietary code.
            That allow us to choose the license for our image.
            OLS and the other software inside will maintain there license as usual.

            Our license will not interfere with any cloudron customer but only with MSP or Hosting providers, if you are one of those 2 you can contact moocloud and we can have an agreement.

            Matteo. R.
            Founder and Tech-Support Manager.
            MooCloud MSP
            Swiss Managed Service Provider

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              kris
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              #34

              Hello
              Has the project been abandoned? If not, when can we expect to see WordPress in the OLS environment

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              • K kris

                Hello
                Has the project been abandoned? If not, when can we expect to see WordPress in the OLS environment

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                MooCloud_Matt
                wrote on last edited by
                #35

                @kris
                hello @kris,

                for now, all the apps developed by us are not on the store, we are talking with the Cloudron team about how partners can publish apps.

                It will take some time anyway, but the Nginx version of WordPress will probably be the first app from us on the store.

                Matteo. R.
                Founder and Tech-Support Manager.
                MooCloud MSP
                Swiss Managed Service Provider

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                  jonashartmann
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                  #36

                  please - this would be THE APP OF THE YEAR!! I would use cloudron for my 200 hosting clients if this would be possible with open lite speed.

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                  • J jonashartmann

                    please - this would be THE APP OF THE YEAR!! I would use cloudron for my 200 hosting clients if this would be possible with open lite speed.

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                    marcusquinn
                    wrote on last edited by marcusquinn
                    #37

                    @jonashartmann We found we could get Wordpress running pretty efficiently with some techniques detailed by Dave Hilditch here:

                    • https://www.wpintense.com

                    As an example, there's over 100 plugins on our Wordpress & Woocommerce site here hosted on a Cloudron app:

                    • https://brandlight.org
                    • https://brandlight.org/the-pursuit-of-website-speed-is-almost-over-when-you-have-perceptibly-instant-page-loading-times-everywhere/
                    • (Since that was written, we reproduced what Algolia does with an in-house developed ElasticSearch alternative, also hosted on Cloudron.)

                    Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
                    Development https://brandlight.org
                    Life https://marcusquinn.com

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                    • J jonashartmann

                      please - this would be THE APP OF THE YEAR!! I would use cloudron for my 200 hosting clients if this would be possible with open lite speed.

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                      MooCloud_Matt
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #38

                      @jonashartmann
                      The first MooCloud App that will be ported is WordPress + Nginx (that in many cases is even better than OLS), but we have OLS already working for many of our servers with cloudron.
                      It is just a question of porting it and publishing it.

                      We are working with cloudron to allow MooCloud Registry and apps to the AppStore but it is too early to promise any ETA.

                      Matteo. R.
                      Founder and Tech-Support Manager.
                      MooCloud MSP
                      Swiss Managed Service Provider

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                      • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                        @jonashartmann We found we could get Wordpress running pretty efficiently with some techniques detailed by Dave Hilditch here:

                        • https://www.wpintense.com

                        As an example, there's over 100 plugins on our Wordpress & Woocommerce site here hosted on a Cloudron app:

                        • https://brandlight.org
                        • https://brandlight.org/the-pursuit-of-website-speed-is-almost-over-when-you-have-perceptibly-instant-page-loading-times-everywhere/
                        • (Since that was written, we reproduced what Algolia does with an in-house developed ElasticSearch alternative, also hosted on Cloudron.)
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                        robi
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #39

                        @marcusquinn said in OpenLiteSpeed Wordpress:

                        (Since that was written, we reproduced what Algolia does with an in-house developed ElasticSearch alternative, also hosted on Cloudron.)

                        Is there a how-to on that?

                        Conscious tech

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                        • robiR robi

                          @marcusquinn said in OpenLiteSpeed Wordpress:

                          (Since that was written, we reproduced what Algolia does with an in-house developed ElasticSearch alternative, also hosted on Cloudron.)

                          Is there a how-to on that?

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                          MooCloud_Matt
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #40

                          @robi said in OpenLiteSpeed Wordpress:

                          Is there a how-to on that?

                          Most likely yes.
                          And mostly is custom develop.

                          I think that we should be able to offer solution that are a good, not perfect, but fit for everyone.

                          Matteo. R.
                          Founder and Tech-Support Manager.
                          MooCloud MSP
                          Swiss Managed Service Provider

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                          • robiR robi

                            @marcusquinn said in OpenLiteSpeed Wordpress:

                            (Since that was written, we reproduced what Algolia does with an in-house developed ElasticSearch alternative, also hosted on Cloudron.)

                            Is there a how-to on that?

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                            marcusquinn
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #41

                            @robi It's based on this plugin: https://wordpress.org/plugins/elasticpress/. Plus some custom add-on plugins we wrote for our custom theme.

                            Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
                            Development https://brandlight.org
                            Life https://marcusquinn.com

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                            • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                              @robi It's based on this plugin: https://wordpress.org/plugins/elasticpress/. Plus some custom add-on plugins we wrote for our custom theme.

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                              robi
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #42

                              @marcusquinn said in OpenLiteSpeed Wordpress:

                              @robi It's based on this plugin: https://wordpress.org/plugins/elasticpress/. Plus some custom add-on plugins we wrote for our custom theme.

                              Ah okay, that makes it a bit simpler. Does it work across subdomains?

                              Do you have https://github.com/10up/ElasticPress packaged for Cloudron?

                              Hmm, I didn't find an app request for it..

                              Conscious tech

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                              • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                                @jonashartmann We found we could get Wordpress running pretty efficiently with some techniques detailed by Dave Hilditch here:

                                • https://www.wpintense.com

                                As an example, there's over 100 plugins on our Wordpress & Woocommerce site here hosted on a Cloudron app:

                                • https://brandlight.org
                                • https://brandlight.org/the-pursuit-of-website-speed-is-almost-over-when-you-have-perceptibly-instant-page-loading-times-everywhere/
                                • (Since that was written, we reproduced what Algolia does with an in-house developed ElasticSearch alternative, also hosted on Cloudron.)
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                                humptydumpty
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                                @marcusquinn said in OpenLiteSpeed Wordpress:

                                We found we could get Wordpress running pretty efficiently with some techniques detailed by Dave Hilditch here:

                                https://www.wpintense.com

                                Are you using the Scalability Pro plugin or just his enhancement tips?

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                                • robiR robi

                                  @marcusquinn said in OpenLiteSpeed Wordpress:

                                  @robi It's based on this plugin: https://wordpress.org/plugins/elasticpress/. Plus some custom add-on plugins we wrote for our custom theme.

                                  Ah okay, that makes it a bit simpler. Does it work across subdomains?

                                  Do you have https://github.com/10up/ElasticPress packaged for Cloudron?

                                  Hmm, I didn't find an app request for it..

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                                  marcusquinn
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #44

                                  @robi ElasticSearch, yes: https://git.cloudron.io/vladimir.d/elasticsearch

                                  Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
                                  Development https://brandlight.org
                                  Life https://marcusquinn.com

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                                  • humptydumptyH humptydumpty

                                    @marcusquinn said in OpenLiteSpeed Wordpress:

                                    We found we could get Wordpress running pretty efficiently with some techniques detailed by Dave Hilditch here:

                                    https://www.wpintense.com

                                    Are you using the Scalability Pro plugin or just his enhancement tips?

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                                    marcusquinn
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                                    @humptydumpty Yes, with these settings we found best to avoid issues or loss of features we want to use.:

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                                    37b12996-ed0d-4b4b-abec-b72d79e7aa96-image.png

                                    Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
                                    Development https://brandlight.org
                                    Life https://marcusquinn.com

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                                    • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                                      @humptydumpty Yes, with these settings we found best to avoid issues or loss of features we want to use.:

                                      f64bc647-f167-493a-9d8f-afa92531a4c0-image.png

                                      8c4313fc-74f7-44c2-9d5d-518f337d2ee8-image.png

                                      37b12996-ed0d-4b4b-abec-b72d79e7aa96-image.png

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                                      humptydumpty
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                                      @marcusquinn Thank you for sharing your settings!

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                                      • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                                        @robi ElasticSearch, yes: https://git.cloudron.io/vladimir.d/elasticsearch

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                                        wrote on last edited by
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                                        @marcusquinn said in OpenLiteSpeed Wordpress:

                                        @robi ElasticSearch, yes: https://git.cloudron.io/vladimir.d/elasticsearch

                                        So you point the ElasticPress plugin directly at ElasticSearch?

                                        Or is ElasticPress a separate packaged install?

                                        Conscious tech

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                                        • robiR robi

                                          @marcusquinn said in OpenLiteSpeed Wordpress:

                                          @robi ElasticSearch, yes: https://git.cloudron.io/vladimir.d/elasticsearch

                                          So you point the ElasticPress plugin directly at ElasticSearch?

                                          Or is ElasticPress a separate packaged install?

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                                          marcusquinn
                                          wrote on last edited by
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                                          @robi ElasticPress is the plugin, that has a setting for pointing at the packaged ElasticSearch Cloudron App.

                                          Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
                                          Development https://brandlight.org
                                          Life https://marcusquinn.com

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