ownCloud Infinite Scale
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ownCloud Infinite Scale, when it roles out. This sounds like it would solve the file-syncing problems I have with Nextcloud (slow, no delta sync, no selective sync).
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It is written in Go, nice.
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@christiaan
this is what I wanted to look into with Odrive.com and Minio for multiple back end S3 stores seamlessly as one interface for Cloudron backups. -
Tech Preview available: https://owncloud.com/news/howto-install-owncloud-infinite-scale-tech-preview/
Want to take the ownCloud Infinite Scale Tech Preview for a spin? It is pretty straightforward, as long as you are comfortable with pasting a sum total of three lines into your terminal. Sounds easy like one, two, three, right? That’s because it is, at least if you renounce SSL and other convenient aspects for the time being – remember, we’re just running a local test.
If you work with a linux distribution, you need tocurl https://download.owncloud.com/ocis/ocis/1.0.0/ocis-1.0.0-linux-amd64 --output ocis. If your device of choice is a Mac, then you need tocurl https://download.owncloud.com/ocis/ocis/1.0.0/ocis-1.0.0-darwin-amd64 --output ocis.
Whether using Linux or Mac, you need then to make the binary executable using this command:chmod +x ocis. And finally, you’ll need to start ownCloud Infinite Scale with this command:./ocis server
When the server has fully started, openhttps://localhost:9200and login using one of the demo accounts (user:password):einstein:relativity,marie:radioactivity,richard:superfluidity
There are also admin demo accounts:moss:vista,admin:admin
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@necrevistonnezr Very nice!
https://github.com/owncloud/ocis is the repo. If anyone gives it a try, would appreciate some screenshots . Is it different from what it looked previously?
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@girish yes, it has a completely different system design a also a completely redo web client. You can find the architecture at https://owncloud.github.io/ocis/#architecture-overview
I have not followed this up yet, but there should either shortly be or recently has been an update to the old php owncloud server which brings the new web ui as an easily installable app from their market.
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sounds like it should be easier to package this now..
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Never a bad idea to have alternatives to Nextcloud on here.
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@robi said in ownCloud Infinite Scale:
S3 stores
A long time ago I used an S3 as backend storage (the one by Exoscale) with Nextcloud (12, if I remember well) but it didn't work very well.
Also during the same period, one of my colleague did some performance test and the conclusion was the slowness issues was more due to interaction with MySQL and seams to be less with PostgreSQL
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@atrilahiji said in ownCloud Infinite Scale:
alternatives to Nextcloud
Cloudron have alternative to Nextcloud
While it depend what you install in your Nextcloud
for the:- file sync you have Syncthing
- calendar/contact you have: SOGo and Radicale
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@jodumont syncthing doesn’t quite do what Nextcloud does. It is a decentralized file sync server where Nextcloud is a self hosted file storage cloud. They are not competitors no matter how much I look at it and ownCloud is the alternative I am looking for. I can figure out the other bits (calendar, contacts, etc.)
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@atrilahiji said in ownCloud Infinite Scale:
syncthing doesn’t quite do what Nextcloud does. It is a decentralized file sync server where Nextcloud is a self hosted file storage cloud. They are not competitors no matter how much I look at it
not a competitor for sure, but where I find the similarity is in the result: having same files on differents devices
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@jodumont biggest drawback is still the absence of an iOS app
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@jodumont I guess I’m more concerned with finding something that mimics the experience as well as the result.
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@necrevistonnezr yes.
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@necrevistonnezr said in ownCloud Infinite Scale:
@jodumont biggest drawback is still the absence of an iOS app
thank for pointing it out, while I'm essentially using Android and Linux I prefer choosing solution which support a broader kind of OS (Windows/MacOS/IOS).
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@atrilahiji said in ownCloud Infinite Scale:
@jodumont I guess I’m more concerned with finding something that mimics the experience as well as the result.
I saw you are in Computer Engineer
you might want to read about how the CERN use ownCloud
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One thing I’m hoping Infinite Scale will do is make it more affordable for us as a small business to run our own cloud server, by way of better efficiency and performance. Sounds like that’s on the cards.
But the competition on this front is peer-to-peer, such as Resilio and Anytype.io
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@christiaan I am also very much hoping that in comparison to Nextcloud, they stick to the use-case of file syncing and do that well. This I find is still a bit lacking out there.
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@nebulon said in ownCloud Infinite Scale:
stick to the use-case of file syncing and do that well
I've been repeatedly told that this is indeed what they want to do
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Is it time?
https://owncloud.com/get-started/ -
@christiaan this still seems to be the php version in those release tarballs
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@nebulon my mistake, I should have posted this link to 1.0.0:
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The 10.6 version of the php server can also optionally install the new web ui.
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I have locally checked the go version and it appears to work (since it is go it is essentially a single binary, which is very nice) However it looks like to some early version with no settings and very limited features, also I couldn't figure out how to sync from the desktop or so.
I guess we have to give this a bit more time to settle, but looks very promising already.
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@nebulon okay, yes, they're calling it a Tech Preview. With any luck they'll have something ready for production this quarter.
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@nebulon Do you have a Repo where you set it up to run on Cloudron? I tried to make a package and encountered this error when starting it:
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@atrilahiji I don't have a repo or Cloudron package yet, just ran it for testing locally to see roughly in which state it is.
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There's a Docker image for their latest 1.5 release, although it's still a tech preview:
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I'm working on this but my biggest frustration thus far has been the way they seem to touch every damn part of the filesystem and there appears to be no easy way to configure everything to work out of /app/data or /app/code.
Has anyone else taken a crack at this or would like to collab? Repo here: https://git.atrilahiji.dev/atrilahiji/cloudron-ocis-app
Calling all @appdev
Made a issue on their git: https://github.com/owncloud/ocis/issues/2021
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@atrilahiji how's it going with that? Any progress?
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@christiaan nope got frustrated and moved on to other apps. Definitely still want to see it work though.
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Curious to test this too. -
My repo here. No clue why it wont actually show anything in the browser????? O_O
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@atridad how come the files refer to Pydio?
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@christiaan Oh I imported my Pydio repo as a starting point.
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General availability touted for May 2022:
https://owncloud.com/news/the-state-of-owncloud-infinite-scale/ -
This would definitely be nice to have. If anyone wants to give it another shot it seems like an awesome alternative. Owncloud with a more performant backend will always be a good idea.
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@christiaan Public Beta is out! https://owncloud.com/infinite-scale-beta/
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@necrevistonnezr said in ownCloud Infinite Scale:
Public Beta is out! https://owncloud.com/infinite-scale-beta/
Exciting! I'd love to see ownCloud hosted on Cloudron. We've been using SyncThing for files and while effective, it has proven difficult to get new members of the team set up with it. Of course, ownCloud has many additional features besides file sync that would be valuable as well.
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To be fair, Nextcloud 24 is such a leap in speed, and we're easily serving 4Tb to 100 users. I wonder if speed and scaling Nextcloud is a solved thing
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Just spotted this and figured I'd share in case anyone is interested
https://owncloud.com/events/tech-talk-how-to-join-the-infinite-scale-beta-program/
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@A-Former-User said in ownCloud Infinite Scale:
I'm working on this but my biggest frustration thus far has been the way they seem to touch every damn part of the filesystem and there appears to be no easy way to configure everything to work out of /app/data or /app/code.
Has anyone else taken a crack at this or would like to collab? Repo here: https://git.atrilahiji.dev/atrilahiji/cloudron-ocis-app
Calling all @appdev
Made a issue on their git: https://github.com/owncloud/ocis/issues/2021
Does anybody know if this is resolved in the beta?
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@christiaan according to the GitHub issue this should no longer be a problem.
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So I see ownCloud Infinite Scale was officially released last week:
https://owncloud.com/news/infinite-scale-release/
What does this mean for possible addition to the App Store?
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There's installation instructions at https://doc.owncloud.com/ocis/next/quickguide/quickguide.html
I gave it a try.
Currently, it's very bare bones. All it has is a UI to upload files and nothing else. It also complains about
could not get ldap Connectionon start up. There are no docs on how to configure all that afaict. -
It also uses a wide range of ports, not sure why - https://doc.owncloud.com/ocis/next/deployment/services/ports-used.html
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@girish okay then, thanks for the update.
