ownCloud Infinite Scale

[christiaan]

ownCloud Infinite Scale, when it roles out. This sounds like it would solve the file-syncing problems I have with Nextcloud (slow, no delta sync, no selective sync).

https://owncloud.com/owncloud-infinite-scale-owncloud-unveils-new-architecture-for-unlimited-scalability/

https://github.com/owncloud/ocis

[ctrl]

It is written in Go, nice.

[robi]

@christiaan
this is what I wanted to look into with Odrive.com and Minio for multiple back end S3 stores seamlessly as one interface for Cloudron backups.

[necrevistonnezr]

Tech Preview available: https://owncloud.com/news/howto-install-owncloud-infinite-scale-tech-preview/

Want to take the ownCloud Infinite Scale Tech Preview for a spin? It is pretty straightforward, as long as you are comfortable with pasting a sum total of three lines into your terminal. Sounds easy like one, two, three, right? That’s because it is, at least if you renounce SSL and other convenient aspects for the time being – remember, we’re just running a local test.
If you work with a linux distribution, you need to curl https://download.owncloud.com/ocis/ocis/1.0.0/ocis-1.0.0-linux-amd64 --output ocis. If your device of choice is a Mac, then you need to curl https://download.owncloud.com/ocis/ocis/1.0.0/ocis-1.0.0-darwin-amd64 --output ocis.
Whether using Linux or Mac, you need then to make the binary executable using this command: chmod +x ocis. And finally, you’ll need to start ownCloud Infinite Scale with this command: ./ocis server
When the server has fully started, open https://localhost:9200 and login using one of the demo accounts (user:password): einstein:relativity, marie:radioactivity, richard:superfluidity
There are also admin demo accounts: moss:vista, admin:admin
For more details, please visit https://owncloud.github.io/ocis/getting-started/

[girish]

@necrevistonnezr Very nice!

https://github.com/owncloud/ocis is the repo. If anyone gives it a try, would appreciate some screenshots . Is it different from what it looked previously?

[fbartels]

@girish yes, it has a completely different system design a also a completely redo web client. You can find the architecture at https://owncloud.github.io/ocis/#architecture-overview

I have not followed this up yet, but there should either shortly be or recently has been an update to the old php owncloud server which brings the new web ui as an easily installable app from their market.

[robi]

sounds like it should be easier to package this now..

[A Former User]

Never a bad idea to have alternatives to Nextcloud on here.

[JOduMonT]

@robi said in ownCloud Infinite Scale:

S3 stores

A long time ago I used an S3 as backend storage (the one by Exoscale) with Nextcloud (12, if I remember well) but it didn't work very well.

Also during the same period, one of my colleague did some performance test and the conclusion was the slowness issues was more due to interaction with MySQL and seams to be less with PostgreSQL

[JOduMonT]

@atrilahiji said in ownCloud Infinite Scale:

alternatives to Nextcloud

Cloudron have alternative to Nextcloud
While it depend what you install in your Nextcloud
for the:

• file sync you have Syncthing
• calendar/contact you have: SOGo and Radicale
  ...

[A Former User]

@jodumont syncthing doesn’t quite do what Nextcloud does. It is a decentralized file sync server where Nextcloud is a self hosted file storage cloud. They are not competitors no matter how much I look at it and ownCloud is the alternative I am looking for. I can figure out the other bits (calendar, contacts, etc.)

[JOduMonT]

@atrilahiji said in ownCloud Infinite Scale:

syncthing doesn’t quite do what Nextcloud does. It is a decentralized file sync server where Nextcloud is a self hosted file storage cloud. They are not competitors no matter how much I look at it

not a competitor for sure, but where I find the similarity is in the result: having same files on differents devices

[necrevistonnezr]

@jodumont biggest drawback is still the absence of an iOS app

[A Former User]

@jodumont I guess I’m more concerned with finding something that mimics the experience as well as the result.

[A Former User]

@necrevistonnezr yes.

[JOduMonT]

@necrevistonnezr said in ownCloud Infinite Scale:

@jodumont biggest drawback is still the absence of an iOS app

thank for pointing it out, while I'm essentially using Android and Linux I prefer choosing solution which support a broader kind of OS (Windows/MacOS/IOS).

[JOduMonT]

@atrilahiji said in ownCloud Infinite Scale:

@jodumont I guess I’m more concerned with finding something that mimics the experience as well as the result.

I saw you are in Computer Engineer
you might want to read about how the CERN use ownCloud
they really pushed the limit of ownCloud (before Nextcloud appear)

• https://opensource.com/business/16/3/cern-and-owncloud
• https://github.com/cernbox

[christiaan]

One thing I’m hoping Infinite Scale will do is make it more affordable for us as a small business to run our own cloud server, by way of better efficiency and performance. Sounds like that’s on the cards.

But the competition on this front is peer-to-peer, such as Resilio and Anytype.io

[nebulon]

@christiaan I am also very much hoping that in comparison to Nextcloud, they stick to the use-case of file syncing and do that well. This I find is still a bit lacking out there.

[fbartels]

@nebulon said in ownCloud Infinite Scale:

stick to the use-case of file syncing and do that well

I've been repeatedly told that this is indeed what they want to do