What's coming in 6.0

[girish]

@JOduMonT We use the latest stable instead of mainline as per https://www.nginx.com/blog/nginx-1-18-1-19-released/

[JOduMonT]

@marcusquinn said in What's coming in 6.0:
thanks for all your info, I guest I also use Hetzner and Linode and ... don't worry I know pretty Cloudflare

FYI

in the pass I had user which was unable to login in Nextcloud because of Email Address Obfuscation Scrape Shield
Cloudflare; so if you activate thas you might have to make a rule for your nextcloud

[mehdi]

@JOduMonT said in What's coming in 6.0:

would be nice, but also a big task, to take advantage of Cloudflare proxy for some apps such as

• Nextcloud
• WordPress
• GravCMS

and not simply using it as a DNS manager.

From a security perspective, I cannot recommend doing this for your self-hosted apps. It basically means authorizing Cloudflare to do a man-in-the-middle attack, and granting them full access to all your data, all your passwords, everything... I believe it negates a lot of the benefits of self-hosting ... And you would have to have a lot of trust in them.

The only "clean" way to do this would be to enable it only on public-facing stuff, never on the admin interface.

[JOduMonT]

@mehdi said in What's coming in 6.0:

self-hosting

when you self hosts yourself you need to trust a lot of people
all the people who work at your registrar, DNS and host company, their providers and 3rd parties, the developer of your hosting solution aka Cloudron, the developer of all these apps, ...
then on the other side you have to trust every device on the network where you are currently connected which means all smartphones, eTV and iFreezer...

Life is about trust

do you trust me

but yeah I ear you
and yeah, and the end trusting the GAFAM might be not that bad.

[marcusquinn]

@JOduMonT I think the world has change now there's more value in data than people released but capitalism knows and is both; competing to acquire, and exploiting, in ways beyond most people's imaginations - until they find election campaigning shenanigans but don't know what to do about it.

So necessary to trust in services; yes.

Trust them with your valuable and private data?

When Google is reading your shopping email confirmations and Facebook is reading everything with a "Like" script, I think it's a responsibility to have parts of your data world not visible to the marketing world.

Privacy, encryption and permissions should be as essential in schooling for the Technology Revolution as literacy was for The Renaissance.

So - data privacy politics for 6.1 anyone?

[jdaviescoates]

There are two things I'd really love to see in 6.0

1. Domain-based admin rights. I want to be able to give people all the rights of an Administrator, but only for specific domain names.
2. I love for Cloudron to become fully open source again

[girish]

@jdaviescoates said in What's coming in 6.0:

Domain-based admin rights. I want to be able to give people all the rights of an Administrator, but only for specific domain names.

Just getting 5.4 out now, but I wanted to make a post about how we plan to implement this under the "service provider setups" feature. I will try to make a post about it early next week since we will need some input anyway before we implement the feature.

I love for Cloudron to become fully open source again

Yup, let's discuss there!

[jdaviescoates]

Great stuff, thanks @girish !

[ultraviolet]

I would love to see the ability to use the + delimiter in emails e.g user+ebay@domain.com or user+pizza@domain.com.

Other providers like Mailcow or Mail in a box have this feature and I find it quite handy when I am filtering spam into its own folder!

Another email feature requests is the ability to create a temporary email from the cloudron admin portal for a logged in user. Mailcow has this feature and it is again quite handy.

[imc67]

@ultraviolet it’s already there, see docs: https://cloudron.io/documentation/email/#subaddresses-and-tags

[ultraviolet]

@imc67 well you learn something new everyday!

Suggestion for temporary email would be handy though!

[marcusquinn]

@ultraviolet Does Catch-all & Masquerading enabled help?

[JOduMonT]

@marcusquinn said in What's coming in 6.0:

@ultraviolet Does Catch-all & Masquerading enabled help?

Yes I use mainly a catchall with alias for email want to use to reply
it is something I was doing with MailCow and it work well with Cloudron too.

The only thing in Cloudron you need one catchall per domain while it was possible to alias
catchall@domain2.tld to catchall@domain1.tld in MailCow

[marcusquinn]

If I can add File Permissions management to the Wishlist for the nice new File Manager please.

[mehdi]

@marcusquinn said in What's coming in 6.0:

If I can add File Permissions management to the Wishlist for the nice new File Manager please.

Seeing the screenshot in girish's post here (more precisely the icons of the actions on the right), I think it's already done for the next version

[nebulon]

Actually the screenshot was only a work-in-progress. The action buttons made it too cluttered so those went into the context menu. There is also an action to at least change the owner to the typical ones we currently use in apps.

[mehdi]

@nebulon A context menu ! These are quite rare on the web, so I would never have guessed to try it, but yeah it's really neat

[marcusquinn]

@nebulon Ahh, I see. Perhaps it could so with a ... at the end of the row to click as well to show that

For interest, I get "Cloudron Error" when trying to navigate into the Contents directory on my Ghost install. Guessing maybe file permissions or bug?

[mehdi]

@marcusquinn They just pushed a 5.4.1 version to fix a bug when navigating symlinks. Maybe ghosts Contents is actually a symlink and that's what you're hitting ?

[marcusquinn]

@mehdi Cool - will test again now. The error also seems to trigger Ghost to run out of memory and restart. Will test again after updating...