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  • robiR Offline
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    robi
    wrote on last edited by joseph
    #1

    One of the mods can update the OP, I can't edit it any longer.
    ~-----~

    SimpleLogin | Protect your online identity with email alias


    Your email address is your online identity. When you use the same email address everywhere, you can be easily tracked. More information on https://simplelogin.io

    This README contains instructions on how to self host SimpleLogin.

    Once you have your own SimpleLogin instance running, you can change the API URL in SimpleLogin's Chrome/Firefox extension, Android/iOS app to your server.

    SimpleLogin roadmap is at https://github.com/simple-login/app/projects/1 and our forum at https://github.com/simple-login/app/discussions, feel free to submit new ideas or vote on features.

    Conscious tech

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      echokos
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      #2

      Hope we can get eyes on this one. SimpleLogin.io is all set for Docker already and is really an amazing program. Would love to self host it.

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      • girishG Do not disturb
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        girish
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        #3

        Cloudron supports email subaddreses which is sorr of related to this. https://docs.cloudron.io/email/#subaddresses-and-tags

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          A Former User
          wrote on last edited by
          #4

          Was aliases not a thing when this was originally posted? Iโ€™ve just been making alias emails for any service I donโ€™t trust (like twitch).

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          • girishG girish

            Cloudron supports email subaddreses which is sorr of related to this. https://docs.cloudron.io/email/#subaddresses-and-tags

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            echokos
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            #5

            @girish - yes, sort of related but SimpleLogin is a wonderful application and would make for a single place to easily create and manage temp or permanent email forwarders.

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              humptydumpty
              wrote on last edited by
              #6

              It's expanding from a simple email alias app to an "online identity protector" with the addition of phone number masking, bank card masking, and a sign in button.

              35e0b99b-c3d4-4174-9bf8-2fc653cdff1e-image.png

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              • girishG girish

                Cloudron supports email subaddreses which is sorr of related to this. https://docs.cloudron.io/email/#subaddresses-and-tags

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                timconsidine
                App Dev
                wrote on last edited by
                #7

                @girish I don't think Cloudron aliases cover the same functionality as SimpleLogin aliases.

                Cloudron aliases are only possible on domains registered in Cloudron and disclose the domain identity. This is fine for re-routing 'legitimate' mail to appropriate destinations.

                SimpleLogin is focussed on privacy and NOT disclosing the destination domain.

                SimpleLogin seems a better approach than e.g. Trashmail, whose front-facing domains seem to be widely known and filtered, and it's not smooth to reply from them. I'm not sure how well-recognised or filtered SimpleLogin domain are.

                But that's where self-hosting SimpleLogin comes into play. Add your own 'trash' domain to protect legit domains.

                The SimpleLogin service is reasonably priced so seems deserving of subscription to support them. But I would still see value in this being self-hostable on cloudron.

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                  #8

                  @robi
                  Please change this issue title from "Simple-Login" to "SimpleLogin" as pointed out by @timconsidine in the duplicate post. Thanks, Robi.

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                  • timconsidineT timconsidine

                    @girish I don't think Cloudron aliases cover the same functionality as SimpleLogin aliases.

                    Cloudron aliases are only possible on domains registered in Cloudron and disclose the domain identity. This is fine for re-routing 'legitimate' mail to appropriate destinations.

                    SimpleLogin is focussed on privacy and NOT disclosing the destination domain.

                    SimpleLogin seems a better approach than e.g. Trashmail, whose front-facing domains seem to be widely known and filtered, and it's not smooth to reply from them. I'm not sure how well-recognised or filtered SimpleLogin domain are.

                    But that's where self-hosting SimpleLogin comes into play. Add your own 'trash' domain to protect legit domains.

                    The SimpleLogin service is reasonably priced so seems deserving of subscription to support them. But I would still see value in this being self-hostable on cloudron.

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                    #9

                    @timconsidine Exactly all of that. Plus, it has browser extensions and mobile apps.

                    The thing about their domain solution is, you're married to that for life if you want to continue to receive emails from all those using those aliases (good business model).

                    Self-hosted allows you your own domain, which is as good as you keep renewing that and self-hosting.

                    If one wanted to also support the open-source, then there's no harm in also paying for an unused subscription.

                    ๐Ÿ‘ from me for this on Cloudron.

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                    • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                      @timconsidine Exactly all of that. Plus, it has browser extensions and mobile apps.

                      The thing about their domain solution is, you're married to that for life if you want to continue to receive emails from all those using those aliases (good business model).

                      Self-hosted allows you your own domain, which is as good as you keep renewing that and self-hosting.

                      If one wanted to also support the open-source, then there's no harm in also paying for an unused subscription.

                      ๐Ÿ‘ from me for this on Cloudron.

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                      timconsidine
                      App Dev
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #10

                      @marcusquinn yes I paid for a subscription as it is worth supporting, and good value.
                      At that point I sat back but would still be interested in a self-host version.

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                      • timconsidineT timconsidine

                        @marcusquinn yes I paid for a subscription as it is worth supporting, and good value.
                        At that point I sat back but would still be interested in a self-host version.

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                        manngobaum
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                        #11

                        Would be great to have this as Cloudron App.

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                          privsec
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                          #12

                          I use anonaddy, I love the service.

                          Same concept.

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                            jdaviescoates
                            wrote on last edited by jdaviescoates
                            #13

                            I just came across Firefox Relay which is Mozilla's free (up to 5 email masks) version of this.

                            https://relay.firefox.com/
                            (looks like it's possible to self-host too https://github.com/mozilla/fx-private-relay )

                            Premium currently only $0.99/mo

                            Screenshot from 2022-08-24 15-53-02.png

                            Shame you can't use your own domains though.

                            Here's a nice comparison by SimpleLogin

                            https://simplelogin.io/blog/vs-firefox-relay/

                            I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                              I just came across Firefox Relay which is Mozilla's free (up to 5 email masks) version of this.

                              https://relay.firefox.com/
                              (looks like it's possible to self-host too https://github.com/mozilla/fx-private-relay )

                              Premium currently only $0.99/mo

                              Screenshot from 2022-08-24 15-53-02.png

                              Shame you can't use your own domains though.

                              Here's a nice comparison by SimpleLogin

                              https://simplelogin.io/blog/vs-firefox-relay/

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                              humptydumpty
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #14

                              @jdaviescoates said in SimpleLogin (manage email aliases and dynamically reply as the alias!):

                              Here's a nice comparison by SimpleLogin

                              Dependency on third party services
                              
                              Firefox Relay relies on Amazon SES to receive and forward emails to your mailbox. 
                              

                              Might be a problem for some of us ๐Ÿ™‚ Mozilla's intentions might be pure but you never know if a bug, hack, or a change in management might expose that info in the future which is why it's best to support projects that steer clear from using big tech' services. Besides, for privacy-oriented folks who self-host open-source software, it feels like being a hypocrite when we use big-tech and closed-source services/apps.

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                              • humptydumptyH humptydumpty

                                @jdaviescoates said in SimpleLogin (manage email aliases and dynamically reply as the alias!):

                                Here's a nice comparison by SimpleLogin

                                Dependency on third party services
                                
                                Firefox Relay relies on Amazon SES to receive and forward emails to your mailbox. 
                                

                                Might be a problem for some of us ๐Ÿ™‚ Mozilla's intentions might be pure but you never know if a bug, hack, or a change in management might expose that info in the future which is why it's best to support projects that steer clear from using big tech' services. Besides, for privacy-oriented folks who self-host open-source software, it feels like being a hypocrite when we use big-tech and closed-source services/apps.

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                                jdaviescoates
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                                #15

                                @humptydumpty said in SimpleLogin (manage email aliases and dynamically reply as the alias!):

                                @jdaviescoates said in SimpleLogin (manage email aliases and dynamically reply as the alias!):

                                Here's a nice comparison by SimpleLogin

                                Dependency on third party services
                                
                                Firefox Relay relies on Amazon SES to receive and forward emails to your mailbox. 
                                

                                Might be a problem for some of us ๐Ÿ™‚ Mozilla's intentions might be pure but you never know if a bug, hack, or a change in management might expose that info in the future which is why it's best to support projects that steer clear from using big tech' services. Besides, for privacy-oriented folks who self-host open-source software, it feels like being a hypocrite when we use big-tech and closed-source services/apps.

                                Yeah, I also spotted:

                                Firefox Relay relies on Firefox Account for authentication.

                                I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                  This app would be fantastic. I already love and use the Apple thing, but something selfhosted and more versatile would be simply great.

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                                    This app would be fantastic. I already love and use the Apple thing, but something selfhosted and more versatile would be simply great.

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                                    timconsidine
                                    App Dev
                                    wrote on last edited by timconsidine
                                    #17

                                    @MisterJD yes it's great.
                                    I user the hosted version with paid plan, so I add a custom domain and some wilcarding and I can create random on-the-fly addresses like merchant@sl.domain.tld for signups etc, which go to my hidden primary.
                                    I also use Trashmail but SimpleLogin is easier (and cheaper I seem to recall).

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                                      A Former User
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                                      #18

                                      This feature on Cloudron would be outstanding.

                                      @girish How many aliases does Cloudron allow?

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                                      • ? A Former User

                                        This feature on Cloudron would be outstanding.

                                        @girish How many aliases does Cloudron allow?

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                                        robi
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                                        #19

                                        @bushido there is no limit.

                                        Conscious tech

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                                        • robiR robi

                                          @bushido there is no limit.

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                                          @robi said in SimpleLogin (manage email aliases and dynamically reply as the alias!):

                                          @bushido there is no limit.

                                          Thanks for your quick reply.

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