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Lonk last edited by Lonk
@nebulon That's absolutely amazing what the two of you have created. Like, seriously, this is fantastic. I haven't been this excited about development in a lonk time (if you couldn't tell from my over-zealousness in the forums, I forgot how much I enjoy development).
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marcusquinn last edited by marcusquinn
@jdaviescoates As I understand it, and I haven't dug too much, the source-code is included and not obfuscated on each install, so could live on in any unfortunate event — but ultimately the life-blood is a business model that pays more than it costs to support. So, I'm focusing on the how to get more paying subscribers side.
I can see both sides of that coin as currently almost everyone here is paying, I wouldn't want to share their time too much with a deluge of unpaid support requests distracting from development.
Owner-founder-developer models I have to respect as I run a similar business, clients can see the source if they really want, most don't, and the ones that do tend to be baking their own solutions anyway.
Lonk last edited by
Yeah, I was disappointed that I couldn't get a dropdown box into app containers (for connecting their networks together on demand) via the current model and figured I'd have to wait for @girish to finish the feature.
BUT if when fully installed it let's us browse the code non-obfuscated then I can do so locally. This should be more common knowledge. I thought I was locked out of contributing the proprietary parts of the app. I hope the developers keep the code non-obfuscated so we can continue it's development if they no longer can and so we can help contribute to Cloudron as a whole. Albeit, a little more difficult because I won't be able to do a merge request with non-open-source code so I'll just have to send it to @girish directly.
jdaviescoates last edited by jdaviescoates
I won't be able to do a merge request with non-open-source code
I've taken this off-topic (sorry!), but I think you could actually do merge requests by joining https://git.cloudron.io/ and submitting them there
Although, of course many people are more reluctant to freely contribute to non open source projects (as some have highlighted in the thread I linked to).
I'm focusing on the how to get more paying subscribers side.
I honestly believe that open sourcing (again) could greatly help with that. In part just because of the great PR it'd generate. I can easily picture articles and blogs covering it all over the place (I'd even write some of them in places like Shareable and P2P Foundation blog etc!).
But also I personally know people who don't use nor subscribe to Cloudron precisely because it isn't open source.
Also think of e.g. all the people trying to push government bodies (who often have open source policies) into innovative directions. Imagine if we could get them all signed-up too?
In short, I can think of lots of reasons why more people might subscribe if Cloudron were open source again, and I can't think of any reasons why people would suddenly stop subscribing.
I wouldn't want to share their time too much with a deluge of unpaid support requests distracting from development.
Could easily make this forum (or parts of it) subscriber only.
Paying for access to updates and support is the standard successful open source business model.
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And I could make a merge request for files that aren't in there open source and you think they could then merge it with their closed source section? I could try that. Thanks for the tip.
Yeah, it's pretty locked down to avoid spam. But pretty sure there are a few others on here who've got account on there and can do that stuff.