Translations for Cloudron

[imc67]

@nebulon can we already start with translating as it might take some time? (Dutch/nl)

[luckow]

To give an idea: the whole translation is done while playing a 10 episode netflix series. After this process you need 3 times 2 hours to make the translation consistent and correct your own typos.

If you want to translate in a team, start with guidelines.For German we have decided to translate according to these guidelines:

• be inclusive & friendly
• avoid to gender. try to find better terms
• if gender is needed use the "*" format
• only translate widly used tech terms. if there is no, don't translate
• in the german language we make a difference between formal and informal salutation. Try to avoid direct salutation.
• put often used terms in the glossary
• as long as necessary but short in focus

[ei8fdb]

@nebulon Glad it's useful.

We will ship Cloudron 6 with only English and German as fully translated. This is only because those are the languages we at Cloudron speak

Yup that makes sense.

However once version 6 is out, it supports downloading new languages and translations without update

Great, and the translations will be managed on weblate? I'd like to help with Spanish localisation.

[ei8fdb]

Thanks @luckow these are good recommendations and advice about the process, particularly:

• be inclusive & friendly
• avoid to gender. try to find better terms. if gender is needed use the "*" format

I am not familar with * format?

• in the german language we make a difference between formal and informal salutation. Try to avoid direct salutation

This does bring up a question: what tone does Cloudron.io want Cloudron to have? Serious? Scary? Helpful? Friendly?

• as long as necessary but short in focus

this can be hard

Doing localisation so everybody can understand is a whole expertise in itself - I am not an expert, but I do try to contribute from the users perspective, and it's important to remember that not all Cloudron users are technology professionals!

It is also important to mention - in some languages there are no words for concepts like security/privacy/encryption - these are not cultural concepts. For the first first languages, this probably won't be a big issue.

Here is a set of glossaries created by Localisation Lab, a great organisation who do localisation work for a lot of open source projects and "technical" projects with their community of native speakers.

https://www.localizationlab.org/glossaries

It has glossaries for many "technical" terms in many languages, for example in Spanish:

attachment - adjunto
database - base de datos
decryption - descifrado
default server - Servidor predeterminado

Here are the glossaries for:
Spanish, French, and Dutch.

[luckow]

@ei8fdb said in Translations for Cloudron:

I am not familar with * format?

I give a concrete example. It's possible to translate owner into the german word Besitzer. But in this case a masculine word is choosen. There is also a translation into Besitzerin possible. And Besitzerin is the female version of Besitzer. In our time and in discussions about an inclusive and gender-sensitive understanding, it is good to choose a "format" for how to deal with both versions of the "same" translation.

• Besitzer/in
• Besitzer & Besitzerinnen
• sometimes Besitzer, sometimes Besitzerin
• Besitzer*in

In that case we chose Besitzerin as the "" format.

[ei8fdb]

@luckow Aha thanks. I studied German for 6 (7?) years in school (Entschuldigung, wie komme ich am bestem zum Bahnhof bitte?!) and university, but I think I missed that lesson.

[vjvanjungg]

just did the survey. where can we begin?

[ei8fdb]

@vjvanjungg here's what @nebulon said about Translations for Cloudron:

We will ship Cloudron 6 with only English and German as fully translated. This is only because those are the languages we at Cloudron speak
However once version 6 is out, it supports downloading new languages and translations without update, so essentially once a Cloudron is then updated to version 6 then everyone can help out with translation for the rest

Hope that helps.

[vjvanjungg]

@ei8fdb ha.. i missed that thanks—will wait then

[ei8fdb]

@ei8fdb said in Translations for Cloudron:

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If you'd like to contribute your answer, you can fill out the 2 question survey.

20 responses as of today.

[girish]

Who is the second tamilian in this forum ? (I am one of them, though I am not of any use with translations since I can only speak and sort of read and hardly write...).

[ei8fdb]

@ei8fdb said in Translations for Cloudron:

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