Regular App Packaging Event

[A Former User]

I think it would be cool to have a Cloudron hackathon bi-weekly or monthly. I don't mind helping to organize something like this. 1000000000% down. There are so many thing I want to package but have very little spare time to commit to doing it right (eg. me completely dropping Strider CI).

[nj]

I'm in for this too. I haven't packaged an app yet, but only because of lack of confidence. It would be awesome to see someone do it, and later be able to help others do the same!

[thetomester13]

I love this idea. Very down for the bi-weekly/monthly idea. I can take a 'timeslot' maybe mid-January or so. I've been eyeing packaging Traccar for a while now...

[marcusquinn]

Should make this Pay Per View

That or the good karma will be forever yours immortalised in commits

[robi]

Thank you all for showing your interest.

There is something about a regular cadence that is safe, warm and fuzzy, but that does take commitment and someone to at least host it.

Sometimes a chunk of time frees up and if others are also around, it's nice to hop on and hack on a part live, but from the feedback I am seeing, this is more likely to happen with async participation which is very much like GitHub/GitLab development.

There is still a need for some set "office hacking hours" where folks can come to learn and gain more confidence then go out and contribute a part to an App in packaging progress.

Until then, one such event has been recorded by @fbartels

Next we may need a running set of 3-5 Apps started with the right template(s), so that people actually have someplace to contribute to.

Then what you learn from the live "office hacking hours", you can apply the knowledge of moving config files, linking from the RO filesystem, adding to the Cloudron manifest and so on.

For this to work well, we shouldn't have dibs on doing x and run into not having it done/waiting, but only doing or not, so someone else can. Just do it.

And we shouldn't expect @girish or @nebulon to join as they have their hands full. If they somehow manage to, it's a bonus treat we shall cherish.

We're doing this to help them and ourselves get Apps packaged in a faster pace than any one of us can do on their own.

So who can host "office hacking hours" for 30-60m this year?

Who can set up and maintain a list of 3-5 Apps we desperately need?

• N8n.io
• Zulip?
• Odoo?

Who can get the repos to get us started?

Who can make a video on how to write and do test coverage?

[marcusquinn]

@robi Something that might help is a session dedicated to just the test writing aspect, as I see many apps get packaged but then don't get into the store while they await that stage if I understand correctly? SO that would include:

• Croodle?
• Loomio?
• Im' sure some others?

[marcusquinn]

@marcusquinn I always ask for those things I see as the greatest asset to the most, and that would include:

• 4minitz
• Croodle
• n8n.io
• Odoo
• Restyaboard
• Astuto
• NodeRED
• Akaunting
• Jitsi
• Vuls
• Pretix

Looking at the future of work, business, teams and life you could do a lot with all of those.

There's many more in the Wishlists but I think this list would round off the capabilities for most common needs I hear of on my travels and would use almost all of them personally so could contribute back to supporting others with that.

[thetomester13]

@robi I mentioned previously, I'm not available in the coming weeks due to the Holiday's and family, but am open to hosting around mid-January! I've been wanting to package Traccar, but can also look at some other options in the App Wishlist to see if there's something interesting with a higher vote.

[A Former User]

@thetomester13 Jitsi is one I’d definitely like to see as well. I guess I can host but after the 25th. I guess I don’t know how to best host this or what to plan and what my role would be????? What should something like this look like to you guys

[thetomester13]

@atrilahiji I wasn't present at the one @fbartels did, but I'm assuming the host is sharing their screen and working their way through packaging an app. Maybe even in a kind of similar fashion to your video about packaging a static site through GitLab, just more interactive, where people can stop and ask questions along the way. Just my thoughts.

[robi]

Maybe Atheos is something to package first so we have a shared IDE for the next one?

If we can get a crack team that is good at all the different parts of packaging without stepping over each other, it'll be an avalanche of new apps!

[doodlemania2]

@robi I did VS Code if that helps?

[marcusquinn]

Anyone tried Atom's shared coding feature?

[robi]

@doodlemania2 as in a tutorial on how to set it up and use it? or how to share a project collaboratively?

Either will be useful really.

[marcusquinn]

https://teletype.atom.io/

Not use VSC but guess that has something similar?

[doodlemania2]

@robi both - such inception!

[marcusquinn]

A couple of VS Code chat options:

• https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=karigari.chat (if it works)
• https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=Ademking.vschat

[robi]

Can we get back to this and start packaging Apps?

Who's in?

Any progress we make will help @staff not have to start from scratch and gets us closer to an app in the App Store.

[doodlemania2]

@robi I'd be delighted to get any help available to wrap up paperlessng - it seems pretty straight forward (still working through it), leverages many of the features we need across many apps (supervisor, pgsql, redis), fun with sed, sadly no ldap auth... if we can find a good time, i'd be happy to do the event and walk through how I package up to the point I'm stuck haha - stuck just do to time, but perhaps we could crowdsource getting it across the goal line

[marcusquinn]

@doodlemania2 Roughly how long do you think a session would be? I can try and gather a number of devs, they are on the timezone GMT +3. From experience working across timezones something like 2-3pm GMT tends to cover most from west to east.