"Cloudron Pro" for large scale, production ready managed apps?

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Cloudron = no toil self-hosting for families and small enterprises with a small support contract

Cloudron Pro = no toil, large scale, production ready, high availability, self-hosted, fully integrated app stacks for larger enterprises with a larger support contract???

Building on Mark Shuttleworth's Keynote at DockerCon 2021 (that explained the potential of Ubuntu + Juju + Charms), this could be an opportunity for the Cloudron devs...and their enthusiastic community?

Here is an example of a large scale, production ready Nextcloud stack charm about to be released.

If I have understood Shuttleworth's presentation correctly, based on the inputs of the Cloudron community discussions, a "Cloudron Pro" Nextcloud charm could implement and support a manged Nextcloud + Collabora/ OpenOffice + High Performance Backend for Files charm(s).

[girish]

Not directly related, but does anyone here have experience with Juju Charms? Are they using snaps underneath? How robust are they?

[scooke]

@girish Normally a question like this would see me running off to give it a try, to give feedback, but when I got to https://charmhub.io/ I realized that's a whole other world. I didn't see my beloved Wordpress, Ghost, CRM-style apps right away... but Bigdata Dev Rsyslog Forwarder Ha, Ballot Content Cache, Zabbix Java Gateway (I recognize "java" but was under the impression it should be avoided at all costs!), Thrunk External Agent, Pipelines Visualization, Nexentaedge Iscsi Gw, Ibm Platform Lsf Server, Ceph Radosgw... I'll slowly back back away now. Good luck to you all.

[girish]

@scooke it screams "enterprise"