Any recommended Server Managers that aren't Cloudon?

[marcusquinn]

Reminds me of this suggestion: https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/4429/suggestion-cloudron-base-version

[marcusquinn]

Maybe this is an option?

• https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/5146/cockpit
• https://cockpit-project.org/
• https://alternativeto.net/software/cockpit-linux/about/

Anyone had a play? Real world experience?

[timconsidine]

@marcusquinn I'm not entirely sure what your needs are for your super-server, but I have installed CapRover https://caprover.com/ on its own VPS.

It run nicely with a number of one-click app installs. Although EspoCRM is not one of them, it has a number of ways to do custom installs to install EspoCRM

But CapRover has Portainer and Cockpit which might deal with your OS and service management. And Prometheus and Grafana if they come into the scope of service management.

[marcusquinn]

@timconsidine I'm thinking Cockpit or my "Cloudron Base" suggestion are the closest to what's needed, without all the things that aren't. Not looking for an alternative for multi-apps, like Cloudron, but an alternative for single apps on a VPS without Docker or restrictions and adaptions that prevent an app doing what it needs to and being logged at root levels.

[MooCloud_Matt]

@marcusquinn

Probably Portainer + Cockpit are the best combo/options that I know, that can fit your requirement.
You just need a docker-compose to create your "Stack" inside Portainer for EspoCRM.
Using their official image/docke-compose: https://github.com/espocrm/docker

This is super flexible but you also need to take care of maintenance, and security but is docker it's easy to maintain.

[marcusquinn]

@moocloud_matt Thanks. Don't want Docker or Portainer. Just the bare naked Ubuntu as it's for hosting a single app.

This is the setup script for EspoCRM in this way:

• https://github.com/espocrm/documentation/blob/master/docs/administration/installation-by-script.md

[scooke]

@marcusquinn Espocrm is doing exactly what you want it to when it has been set up this way?

[marcusquinn]

@scooke EspoCRM is not stable on Cloudron when you start adding more users and features, and provides no debug error logs when it locks-up and needs manual intervention to recover.

Our DIY setup, with an identical application codebase, is stable and trouble-free.

[timconsidine]

@marcusquinn did you consider netdata https://www.netdata.cloud ?

Seems to have a lot of metrics
Maybe you solved your system monitoring quest

[marcusquinn]

@timconsidine Nice, looks interesting. More like Grafana than Cockpit from my initial glance over the site? Seems to be on the growing Wishlist too:

• https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/1125/netdata-real-time-monitoring