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Does anyone have a more recent, working FORM solution using existing apps on Cloudron?

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    • luckowL luckow

      Most CMSs come with a contact form. If you do not use a CMS, it depends on your desired workflow. What should happen when a contact submits the form? In the golden age of the internet, we had Matt's script archive for such purposes http://www.scriptarchive.com/.

      My suggestion for low volume and only email "notification": use a CMS and activate the contact form (or install a plugin/extension/module).
      For larger volume or a better marketing workflow: install mautic.

      If you need a flexible solution for complete different purposes and with no/low code, try baserow.

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      @luckow said in Does anyone have a more recent, working FORM solution using existing apps on Cloudron?:

      If you need a flexible solution for complete different purposes and with no/low code, try baserow.

      How would you do a form with baserow?

      Conscious tech

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      • robiR robi

        @luckow said in Does anyone have a more recent, working FORM solution using existing apps on Cloudron?:

        If you need a flexible solution for complete different purposes and with no/low code, try baserow.

        How would you do a form with baserow?

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        @robi A form in baserow is "only" a view.

        First: create your table.
        Second: Go to grid and choose "Add a view: form".

        660e6a73-d65f-4ee5-a7b9-68bcaec67aca-grafik.png

        Third: create your form. Click "Share form".

        https://baserow.nebelcloud.de/form/4468w6soCIG-ycaTV-G-H9cIXrcrWo9fuDgFfYZyaAk

        Pronouns: he/him | Primary language: German

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        • luckowL luckow

          @robi A form in baserow is "only" a view.

          First: create your table.
          Second: Go to grid and choose "Add a view: form".

          660e6a73-d65f-4ee5-a7b9-68bcaec67aca-grafik.png

          Third: create your form. Click "Share form".

          https://baserow.nebelcloud.de/form/4468w6soCIG-ycaTV-G-H9cIXrcrWo9fuDgFfYZyaAk

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          @luckow I just used it! Did you get my info?

          A life lived in fear is a life half-lived

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          • scookeS scooke

            @luckow I just used it! Did you get my info?

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            Pronouns: he/him | Primary language: German

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              @luckow Cool. I will give this a try actually. EDIT: Oh, 2GB ram... maybe not.

              A life lived in fear is a life half-lived

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              • luckowL luckow

                @robi A form in baserow is "only" a view.

                First: create your table.
                Second: Go to grid and choose "Add a view: form".

                660e6a73-d65f-4ee5-a7b9-68bcaec67aca-grafik.png

                Third: create your form. Click "Share form".

                https://baserow.nebelcloud.de/form/4468w6soCIG-ycaTV-G-H9cIXrcrWo9fuDgFfYZyaAk

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                @luckow Ha, this is great, thanks for sharing, you should definitely post my entry 😉

                Conscious tech

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                • robiR robi

                  @luckow Ha, this is great, thanks for sharing, you should definitely post my entry 😉

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                  I mostly use Mautic/Wordpress to handle my forms, in my use case Mautic is great because I can fully control my forms, ingest the output in Mautic segments or conect it to N8 for further steps.

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                  • rmdesR rmdes

                    I mostly use Mautic/Wordpress to handle my forms, in my use case Mautic is great because I can fully control my forms, ingest the output in Mautic segments or conect it to N8 for further steps.

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                    @rmdes you have a guide somewhere?

                    Conscious tech

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                    • robiR robi

                      @rmdes you have a guide somewhere?

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                      @robi not really, the scenarios I have tested are more trivial than really being used,
                      like I can get Mautic to send N8 a new subscriber and this in turn is sent via N8 webhook to my matrix dedicated space where I centralize notifications, but this was mainly for testing only I don't really need complex interactions for now.

                      The way I use Mautic is pretty default, since a few months the UI editor to compose newsletter is operational and enough for my needs, the possibilities Mautic offer in terms of forms are more than enough for me (I don't need conditional stuff for now, not using it in marketing/profit purpose)
                      forms are super easy to integrate (Js, Iframe etc..) and "transparent" enough to integrate any front-end design in my experience: Mautic + Wordpress is smooth combination.

                      There is a RSS plugin that interest me for Mautic that I want to explore a bit more, I want to see if we could get a RSS powered "newsletter" automated using Mautic, I want to see how far this RSS plugin can go, integrate images etc.. and allow me to generate a newsletter from another activity : curating information / staring items inside Fresh RSS for example / then use the output of only the stared RSS items to feed a Mautic newsletter about a given topic.

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                      • rmdesR rmdes

                        @robi not really, the scenarios I have tested are more trivial than really being used,
                        like I can get Mautic to send N8 a new subscriber and this in turn is sent via N8 webhook to my matrix dedicated space where I centralize notifications, but this was mainly for testing only I don't really need complex interactions for now.

                        The way I use Mautic is pretty default, since a few months the UI editor to compose newsletter is operational and enough for my needs, the possibilities Mautic offer in terms of forms are more than enough for me (I don't need conditional stuff for now, not using it in marketing/profit purpose)
                        forms are super easy to integrate (Js, Iframe etc..) and "transparent" enough to integrate any front-end design in my experience: Mautic + Wordpress is smooth combination.

                        There is a RSS plugin that interest me for Mautic that I want to explore a bit more, I want to see if we could get a RSS powered "newsletter" automated using Mautic, I want to see how far this RSS plugin can go, integrate images etc.. and allow me to generate a newsletter from another activity : curating information / staring items inside Fresh RSS for example / then use the output of only the stared RSS items to feed a Mautic newsletter about a given topic.

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                        @rmdes said in Does anyone have a more recent, working FORM solution using existing apps on Cloudron?:

                        There is a RSS plugin that interest me for Mautic that I want to explore a bit more, I want to see if we could get a RSS powered "newsletter" automated using Mautic, I want to see how far this RSS plugin can go, integrate images etc.. and allow me to generate a newsletter from another activity : curating information / staring items inside Fresh RSS for example / then use the output of only the stared RSS items to feed a Mautic newsletter about a given topic.

                        I'm really interested in this sort of stuff too.

                        I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                        • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                          @rmdes said in Does anyone have a more recent, working FORM solution using existing apps on Cloudron?:

                          There is a RSS plugin that interest me for Mautic that I want to explore a bit more, I want to see if we could get a RSS powered "newsletter" automated using Mautic, I want to see how far this RSS plugin can go, integrate images etc.. and allow me to generate a newsletter from another activity : curating information / staring items inside Fresh RSS for example / then use the output of only the stared RSS items to feed a Mautic newsletter about a given topic.

                          I'm really interested in this sort of stuff too.

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                          I use mautic for contact / newsletter signup. The nice thing is that I can from there generate leads and pick things up with n8n

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                          • rmdesR rmdes

                            @robi not really, the scenarios I have tested are more trivial than really being used,
                            like I can get Mautic to send N8 a new subscriber and this in turn is sent via N8 webhook to my matrix dedicated space where I centralize notifications, but this was mainly for testing only I don't really need complex interactions for now.

                            The way I use Mautic is pretty default, since a few months the UI editor to compose newsletter is operational and enough for my needs, the possibilities Mautic offer in terms of forms are more than enough for me (I don't need conditional stuff for now, not using it in marketing/profit purpose)
                            forms are super easy to integrate (Js, Iframe etc..) and "transparent" enough to integrate any front-end design in my experience: Mautic + Wordpress is smooth combination.

                            There is a RSS plugin that interest me for Mautic that I want to explore a bit more, I want to see if we could get a RSS powered "newsletter" automated using Mautic, I want to see how far this RSS plugin can go, integrate images etc.. and allow me to generate a newsletter from another activity : curating information / staring items inside Fresh RSS for example / then use the output of only the stared RSS items to feed a Mautic newsletter about a given topic.

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                            @rmdes what do you use to prevent spam signups/messages?

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                              I spend alot of my time making forms, surveys, ways to gather data.

                              My suggestions:

                              • if you want to make 1 contact form (text input fields, maybe some simple selections from combox, radio buttons) and use that data for something I'd suggest Nextcloud & the Forms app. Forms is perfect for the majority of simple form needs. It spits it out to a CSV and also does simple graphing. But it handles other forms needs well (closing forms after X time, max/min selections). There is simple visual modifications.

                              • if you plan to make a lot of form and more advanced forms (all the above plus branching logic - e.g. if you choose answer 2 skip to form page 5, control access to the form) I'd suggest Limesurvey. But be prepared it is not trivial to use. You can modify it visually.

                              • if you want to make a simple form for gathering to just gather data and write it to a nicely manipulatable database you, I'd suggest Baserow like others have suggested (e.g. here is a form I created to gather participants names for research. No idea about visual modifications.

                              I'd recommend trying nextcloud first. The benefit of cloud storage comes for free and it needs (I think) less resources than the other options.

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                                I've not tried it yet, but ONLYOFFICE now has forms too

                                https://www.onlyoffice.com/blog/2022/01/7-interesting-facts-about-onlyoffice-forms/

                                I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                • humptydumptyH humptydumpty

                                  @rmdes what do you use to prevent spam signups/messages?

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                                  @humptydumpty
                                  Recaptcha for the moment but there is also ways to create native honeyspot hole with Mautic if you don't want to use google.
                                  https://github.com/KonstantinCodes/mautic-recaptcha
                                  aea7b9bb-61e3-4a5c-b016-2142c4a8f413-image.png

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                                    @humptydumpty
                                    Recaptcha for the moment but there is also ways to create native honeyspot hole with Mautic if you don't want to use google.
                                    https://github.com/KonstantinCodes/mautic-recaptcha
                                    aea7b9bb-61e3-4a5c-b016-2142c4a8f413-image.png

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                                    @rmdes is there a way to do simple math and check for an answer?

                                    Conscious tech

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                                    • humptydumptyH humptydumpty

                                      @rmdes what do you use to prevent spam signups/messages?

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                                      @humptydumpty I've created a lot of forms, and rarely (less than 1%) get spam. I choose to deal with it, when if it becomes a problem. (If the form is going to be live for years, there's a chance spam will become an issue)

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                                      • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                                        I've not tried it yet, but ONLYOFFICE now has forms too

                                        https://www.onlyoffice.com/blog/2022/01/7-interesting-facts-about-onlyoffice-forms/

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                                        @jdaviescoates From the look of it it looks like the forms are literally fillable documents. 🤦 Have we gone backwards to the days of fillable PDFs?!

                                        Thanks for mentioning it. I will try it out. (Tho' I'm not holding my breath!)

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                                        • humptydumptyH humptydumpty

                                          @rmdes what do you use to prevent spam signups/messages?

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                                          @humptydumpty said in Does anyone have a more recent, working FORM solution using existing apps on Cloudron?:

                                          @rmdes what do you use to prevent spam signups/messages?

                                          I used to use the google captcha but would still get lots of spam. Now I'm just using a field with a condition where I make people solve a simple math question like "what is 6+1?"

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                                            @humptydumpty said in Does anyone have a more recent, working FORM solution using existing apps on Cloudron?:

                                            @rmdes what do you use to prevent spam signups/messages?

                                            I used to use the google captcha but would still get lots of spam. Now I'm just using a field with a condition where I make people solve a simple math question like "what is 6+1?"

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                                            @andreasdueren I've tried math, honeypots, captcha's, black magic, incantations, prayers, and pleading, and I still get spammed on my Wordpress forms. I've even tossed the form inside a pop-up and that didn't deter them 😥.

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