What's coming in 7.3
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LDAP groups would be huge. Been dying for that a couple years now
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@robi That's what we do internally indeed. But we're spreading this out to our community now. So no dice. We must have an external turnserver.
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Volume backups option? Avoiding shared between N apps being backed up N times..
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@robi currently, volumes are not backed up at all.
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@girish can you add that to 7.3 or elsewhere?
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Is there a plan for more backup backends like restic / borg for 7.3?
I recall it being listed for 7.2 at some point but looks like it got dropped off the list due to the need for a speedy release.
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@avatar1024 work has already started to split the backup code into separate formats, but I don't know if we can add a restic backend for 7.3 as such.
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Filenames can be optionally encrypted. Main advantage is that this allows longer filenames with rsync.
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Excited for all the mail-related feature improvements / additions.
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@girish said in What's coming in 7.3:
External app links in Dashboard
How's this coming along? Any ETA on 7.3?
We're not here for a long time - but we are here for a good time :)
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@marcusquinn ETA is end of this month.
As for external app links in Dashboard, it's already implemented. I will let @nebulon post some screenshots.
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@girish noooooo waaaayyy super exciting
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@girish said in What's coming in 7.3:
OpenVPN/Wireguard integration
Need any help with this Girish? I still have my forked Cloudron that can run apps thru an OpenVPN connection (not Wireguard tho but the same concept should apply).
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Can you explain the openvpn/wireguard integration feature?
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@fuzzynet A common use case for Cloudron is to host private / internal apps. There is no reason have these exposed to the internet as such. This feature will enable (specific) apps to be accessible only via VPN/Wireguard.
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@girish that's cool !
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@girish said in What's coming in 7.3:
accessible only via VPN/Wireguard.
would that wireguard then also be hosted on Cloudron or is that a separate installation?
Both could probably have valid use cases. At work we already have wireguard, so I would want to use an existing, not cloudron based wireguard. For new installations wireguard being part of Cloudron word of course also be nice.
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would that wireguard then also be hosted on Cloudron or is that a separate installation?
Don't have a specific plan here. As you said, both cases are valid, I think we will go with whatever is easily possible for the initial release. I will update here as we explore implementing this .
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We have added the external app link support now as well. You can think of this as basically some bookmark system to allow putting plain URLs as links into the dashboard to provide organizations a way to use the Cloudron dashboard as a landing page for their users. The link visibility works the same way as for any other app and generally those links look just like apps on the Cloudron.
The UI is currently being finalized but looks mostly like this:
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@nebulon WOW again Neb that's pretty much awesome and indeed quite useful ! I even believe that sould answers many requests for something in the like, at least temporarily, it's a start. Thanks for the good ideas and the great work.
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@nebulon said in What's coming in 7.3:
but looks mostly like this:
The "running" value at the digitalocean entry looks kind of weird. Ist that backed by a http check or could just be omitted for these kind of entries?
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@fbartels Agreed that it seems odd (unless it's supported by health checks then I guess that makes sense). I kind of think that should just be empty where it currently says "running", or otherwise allow it to be customizable text so admins can make it say whatever they want such as "external" or "bookmark" or something like that.
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@nebulon UpstreamUri is a bit nebulous. I suggest instead "External URL".
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@ruihildt more official and more clearer
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Thanks for the feedback, I will revise the UI bits there. Currently we do not check health of the external url, but I had this in my stash for a release where we maybe focus a bit more on the healthcheck and uptime reporting, but I agree without that the "running" label really makes no sense.
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@nebulon The running health-check makes sense to me, especially for other self-hosted apps on their own separate servers. Perhaps just a tick-box to enable?
What doesn't make sense to me is the Running text for non-admins though, the text has no utility to a user that expects all things to be running anyway, unless told otherwise, in which case then text can be shown to say whatever else might be happening that isn't running.
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@marcusquinn I don't think the app status is displayed for non-admin users but I will double check.
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@girish it is displayed
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adding external links is a great feature. i’d imagine it’d be so useful.
i sometimes wanted to add a little note (welcome note or quick first-time user guide) for the new users - with no logins or complicated passwords to remember of that sort. You’ve just given me a great idea. With the meemo note link, i think this could finally get done.
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@girish said in What's coming in 7.3:
External app links in Dashboard
@nebulon said in What's coming in 7.3:
We have added the external app link support now as well. You can think of this as basically some bookmark system to allow putting plain URLs as links into the dashboard to provide organizations a way to use the Cloudron dashboard as a landing page for their users. The link visibility works the same way as for any other app and generally those links look just like apps on the Cloudron.
The UI is currently being finalized but looks mostly like this:
I'm really wanting this today!
Have we got a rough guestimate of when 7.3 will be out?
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@girish said in What's coming in 7.3:
(mail) VERP and bounce management for mailtrain and mautic
What about Listmonk? (or does that have such stuff built in already?)
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@nebulon I don't suppose you could make a way for all of us that have created Surfer apps with html meta refresh to a URL to convert all those apps to these new External Link shortcut apps? I have dozens of them!
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@jdaviescoates IIRC, Listmonk is able to uses POP3 to read bounce emails and unsubscribe.
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Filebase integration is not possible at the moment because of https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/5171/add-storj-and-filebase-as-backup-options/8
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(mail) VERP and bounce management for mailtrain and mautic
(mail) send as subaddressThese are implemented now.
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@girish said in What's coming in 7.3:
(mail) wildcard aliases
Just implemented this. Can add wildcard aliases using '*'.
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Mailbox quota is implemented:
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@girish really looking forward to external links. Is there any projected release date for 7.3?
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@girish said in What's coming in 7.3:
Mailbox quota is implemented:
Uhhh very nice! Will there be a warning via email so users know that they're running low on space and what happens if the storage is already over quota? Will there be auto-replies that the mailbox is full?
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@msbt said in What's coming in 7.3:
Will there be a warning via email so users know that they're running low on space
Yes. Two mails are sent to the user - one for 80% full and another for 95% full. Apps like roundcube also show the quota bar on the main screen.
Will there be auto-replies that the mailbox is full?
Mails will bounce with Quota Exceeded message.
There are also events in the mail event log for quota exceeded and when it falls below 80%.
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Just preparing the release. Updated the changelog if anyone is interested - https://git.cloudron.io/cloudron/box/-/blob/master/CHANGES#L2511 . The CI is running now, hopefully this is done this week.
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@girish said in What's coming in 7.3:
Updated the changelog if anyone is interested - https://git.cloudron.io/cloudron/box/-/blob/master/CHANGES#L2511
This may be minor, but may I suggest the changelogs be sorted alphabetically so that we can see related changes easier per function (i.e. mail)?
If we did that, not only would it make it easier for admins to read and parse, but the development team could detect duplicate entries in the changelog easier
Note that there are two duplicate entries such as the following:
mail: fix issue where signature was appended to text attachmentsmail: catch all address can be any domain
Sorted alphabetically:
* Applinks - app bookmarks in dashboard * IPv6: initial support for ipv6 only server * Proxied apps * Randomize certificate generation cronjob to lighten load on Let's Encrypt servers * UI: fix issue where mailbox display name was not init correctly * User directory: Cloudron connector uses 2FA auth * acme: Randomize certificate renewal check over a whole day * backups: Fix precondition check which was not erroring if mount is missing * backups: allow space in label name * backups: optional encryption of backup file names * eventlog: add event for impersonated user login * filemanager: add split view * graphs: cgroup v2 support * graphs: show app disk usage graphs * ldap & user directory: Remove virtual user and admin groups * ldap: remove virtual user and admin groups to ldap user records * mail: accept only STARTTLS servers for relay * mail: add queue management API and UI * mail: add storage quota support * mail: allow aliases to have wildcard * mail: catch all address can be any domain * mail: catch all address can be any domain * mail: fix crash when solr is enabled on Ubuntu 22 (cgroup v2 detection fix) * mail: fix issue where certificate renewal did not restart the mail container properly * mail: fix issue where signature was appended to text attachments * mail: fix issue where signature was appended to text attachments * nginx: fix zero length certs when out of disk space * notification: Fix crash when backupId is null * port bindings: add read only flag * proxyAuth: add supportsBearerAuth flag * redis: restart button will now rebuild if the container is missing * wasabi: add singapore and sydney regions--
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@d19dotca that's a good idea for the public release notes, I have made it alphabetical there (this is the one you see when you click update on Cloudron, usually it is more high level and not commit based). This changelog in the repo is really just internal and not meant to be read by end users. I know I posted it on the forum, but was just trying to give a heads up for curious people
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@girish Have you had any luck with configurable turn? Anything others can do to help?
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@eganonoa we had to move this further out as v7.3 was already a bit stretched out.
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Quick question… the mailbox limit size feature… it’s currently only able to be set on individual mailboxes as opposed to a shared limit domain-wide, right? If true then I’ll file a feature request to make it domain-wide if not already filed, as that’d be excellent.
Just wanted to make sure I hadn’t overlooked something though first.--
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@d19dotca Yes, the mailbox size is only per mailbox and not per domain. Per domain makes sense.
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Congratulations!
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Is 7.3.1 stable enough to use now? I have received the update notification in my Cloudron instances, but it still contains a warning that it is unstable, so I am hesitant on my two production instances.
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@ekevu123 Not yet, as at least for me, it's looking like 7.3.3 may be the stable target.
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@ekevu123 It's best to wait for 7.3.2 (unless you want to test early). It's mostly stable, though there are a few bugs. I think we should have it out coming Monday.
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@girish I get a "Email not configured properly" notification, saying the PTR record is not found, but then, when I check the DNS settings, all is fine. This has happened a few times since the upgrade. That's all I've noticed on my end.
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In 7.3.2 I noticed the release notes mention a network graph, but I'm not seeing that network graph at all in 7.3.2 when I installed it the other night... is this only supported on maybe Ubuntu 22 instead of Ubuntu 20 for example?
* graphs: add cpu/disk/network usageAll I see are the regular CPU, memory, and disk usage graphs. No network usage graphs that I could find. Am I missing something obvious?
EDIT: I just realized these network graphs are on the individual app itself, not the System page. A bit unclear from the release notes, but maybe the network graph can be added to the System tab too where it's an amalgamation of all the container parts for example?
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@d19dotca yes, currently the network graphs are only app level. We want to see how it works out before adding it to the system level.
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I got a notification that 7.3.2 is available. See screenshot below:
But then I get a warning when I go to settings that it is not considered stable yet. Is this true or has that just not been updated yet?
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@colonelpanic did you maybe manually check for updates recently? If so then the update will be visible but will not be applied automatically, yet.
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Hi everyone,
I did the upgrade today to 7.3.2, which seems to have worked great. I first did a bit of cleanup to remove some no longer mailboxes since catchall now works with all mailboxes instead of just mailboxes on the same domain.
I also wanted to play around with the new proxy and external link feature (at first I expected to find these as an app and did not immediately see the buttons for them on top of the appstore listing). What does not seem to work however is to directly restrict visibility of external app links to users, as the dropdown listing is just shown as empty:
After adding the app as visible for all users it is however possible to restrict it back to the desired users from the main dashboard.
Its a nice feature that this automatically fetches profile pictures for the apps
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@fbartels ah thanks for the bug report. We only moved that from the apps grid to the appstore view last minute and seems like something about the users and groups was not patched up. Will fix this.
We kinda went back and forth where and how to put applinks as they are not real apps as such, first you would add them in the apps grid, but that wasn't ideal. We can improve on the current situation as we go though and if it makes more sense to show it as an app in the appstore then maybe we can do that as well. Would be good to hear some more feedback on this.
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@fbartels fixed now, but pending a new patch release. We will wait a bit to collect more fixes.
