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What's coming in 7.3

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  • girishG girish

    @fuzzynet A common use case for Cloudron is to host private / internal apps. There is no reason have these exposed to the internet as such. This feature will enable (specific) apps to be accessible only via VPN/Wireguard.

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    timconsidine
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    @girish that's cool !
    Security is constant bug-bear and this will be very useful.

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    • girishG girish

      @fuzzynet A common use case for Cloudron is to host private / internal apps. There is no reason have these exposed to the internet as such. This feature will enable (specific) apps to be accessible only via VPN/Wireguard.

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      wrote on last edited by fbartels
      #27

      @girish said in What's coming in 7.3:

      accessible only via VPN/Wireguard.

      would that wireguard then also be hosted on Cloudron or is that a separate installation?

      Both could probably have valid use cases. At work we already have wireguard, so I would want to use an existing, not cloudron based wireguard. For new installations wireguard being part of Cloudron word of course also be nice.

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      • fbartelsF fbartels

        @girish said in What's coming in 7.3:

        accessible only via VPN/Wireguard.

        would that wireguard then also be hosted on Cloudron or is that a separate installation?

        Both could probably have valid use cases. At work we already have wireguard, so I would want to use an existing, not cloudron based wireguard. For new installations wireguard being part of Cloudron word of course also be nice.

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        #28

        @fbartels

        would that wireguard then also be hosted on Cloudron or is that a separate installation?

        Don't have a specific plan here. As you said, both cases are valid, I think we will go with whatever is easily possible for the initial release. I will update here as we explore implementing this .

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          #29

          We have added the external app link support now as well. You can think of this as basically some bookmark system to allow putting plain URLs as links into the dashboard to provide organizations a way to use the Cloudron dashboard as a landing page for their users. The link visibility works the same way as for any other app and generally those links look just like apps on the Cloudron.

          The UI is currently being finalized but looks mostly like this: 4fdc9aab-7268-4879-8dd0-24c66c54753a-image.png

          37acba81-abf9-4a8d-91f4-60c6a67c76eb-image.png

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          • nebulonN nebulon

            We have added the external app link support now as well. You can think of this as basically some bookmark system to allow putting plain URLs as links into the dashboard to provide organizations a way to use the Cloudron dashboard as a landing page for their users. The link visibility works the same way as for any other app and generally those links look just like apps on the Cloudron.

            The UI is currently being finalized but looks mostly like this: 4fdc9aab-7268-4879-8dd0-24c66c54753a-image.png

            37acba81-abf9-4a8d-91f4-60c6a67c76eb-image.png

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            #30

            @nebulon WOW again Neb that's pretty much awesome and indeed quite useful ! I even believe that sould answers many requests for something in the like, at least temporarily, it's a start. Thanks for the good ideas and the great work. ๐Ÿ™‚

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            • nebulonN nebulon

              We have added the external app link support now as well. You can think of this as basically some bookmark system to allow putting plain URLs as links into the dashboard to provide organizations a way to use the Cloudron dashboard as a landing page for their users. The link visibility works the same way as for any other app and generally those links look just like apps on the Cloudron.

              The UI is currently being finalized but looks mostly like this: 4fdc9aab-7268-4879-8dd0-24c66c54753a-image.png

              37acba81-abf9-4a8d-91f4-60c6a67c76eb-image.png

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              #31

              @nebulon said in What's coming in 7.3:

              but looks mostly like this:

              The "running" value at the digitalocean entry looks kind of weird. Ist that backed by a http check or could just be omitted for these kind of entries?

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              • fbartelsF fbartels

                @nebulon said in What's coming in 7.3:

                but looks mostly like this:

                The "running" value at the digitalocean entry looks kind of weird. Ist that backed by a http check or could just be omitted for these kind of entries?

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                @fbartels Agreed that it seems odd (unless it's supported by health checks then I guess that makes sense). I kind of think that should just be empty where it currently says "running", or otherwise allow it to be customizable text so admins can make it say whatever they want such as "external" or "bookmark" or something like that.

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                • nebulonN nebulon

                  We have added the external app link support now as well. You can think of this as basically some bookmark system to allow putting plain URLs as links into the dashboard to provide organizations a way to use the Cloudron dashboard as a landing page for their users. The link visibility works the same way as for any other app and generally those links look just like apps on the Cloudron.

                  The UI is currently being finalized but looks mostly like this: 4fdc9aab-7268-4879-8dd0-24c66c54753a-image.png

                  37acba81-abf9-4a8d-91f4-60c6a67c76eb-image.png

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                  #33

                  @nebulon UpstreamUri is a bit nebulous. I suggest instead "External URL".

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                  • ruihildtR ruihildt

                    @nebulon UpstreamUri is a bit nebulous. I suggest instead "External URL".

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                    ApplegateR
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                    #34

                    @ruihildt more official and more clearer

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                      #35

                      Thanks for the feedback, I will revise the UI bits there. Currently we do not check health of the external url, but I had this in my stash for a release where we maybe focus a bit more on the healthcheck and uptime reporting, but I agree without that the "running" label really makes no sense.

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                      • nebulonN nebulon

                        Thanks for the feedback, I will revise the UI bits there. Currently we do not check health of the external url, but I had this in my stash for a release where we maybe focus a bit more on the healthcheck and uptime reporting, but I agree without that the "running" label really makes no sense.

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                        #36

                        @nebulon The running health-check makes sense to me, especially for other self-hosted apps on their own separate servers. Perhaps just a tick-box to enable?

                        What doesn't make sense to me is the Running text for non-admins though, the text has no utility to a user that expects all things to be running anyway, unless told otherwise, in which case then text can be shown to say whatever else might be happening that isn't running.

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                        • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                          @nebulon The running health-check makes sense to me, especially for other self-hosted apps on their own separate servers. Perhaps just a tick-box to enable?

                          What doesn't make sense to me is the Running text for non-admins though, the text has no utility to a user that expects all things to be running anyway, unless told otherwise, in which case then text can be shown to say whatever else might be happening that isn't running.

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                          @marcusquinn I don't think the app status is displayed for non-admin users but I will double check.

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                          • girishG girish

                            @marcusquinn I don't think the app status is displayed for non-admin users but I will double check.

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                            @girish it is displayed

                            โœŒ๐Ÿ’™+1

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                              adding external links is a great feature. iโ€™d imagine itโ€™d be so useful.

                              i sometimes wanted to add a little note (welcome note or quick first-time user guide) for the new users - with no logins or complicated passwords to remember of that sort. Youโ€™ve just given me a great idea. With the meemo note link, i think this could finally get done. ๐ŸŽ‰

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                              • girishG girish

                                Mostly quality of life improvements ๐Ÿ™‚

                                Whatโ€™s coming in 7.3

                                • (mail) Per mailbox quota - message limit and size
                                • (mail) VERP and bounce management for mailtrain and mautic
                                • SFTP export flag for volumes We will enhance the web file manager instead
                                • (mail) Virtual all directory in dovecot for search
                                • (mail) Expose mail queue operations
                                • (mail) wildcard aliases
                                • (mail) send as subaddress
                                • External app links in Dashboard
                                • storj/filebase integration
                                • Expose groups via LDAP: already implemented in a previous release
                                • Set domain of LDAP server
                                • Configurable TURN server
                                • Backup integrity
                                • OpenVPN/Wireguard integration
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                                #40

                                @girish said in What's coming in 7.3:

                                External app links in Dashboard

                                @nebulon said in What's coming in 7.3:

                                We have added the external app link support now as well. You can think of this as basically some bookmark system to allow putting plain URLs as links into the dashboard to provide organizations a way to use the Cloudron dashboard as a landing page for their users. The link visibility works the same way as for any other app and generally those links look just like apps on the Cloudron.

                                The UI is currently being finalized but looks mostly like this: 4fdc9aab-7268-4879-8dd0-24c66c54753a-image.png

                                37acba81-abf9-4a8d-91f4-60c6a67c76eb-image.png

                                I'm really wanting this today! ๐Ÿ™‚

                                Have we got a rough guestimate of when 7.3 will be out?

                                I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                • girishG girish

                                  Mostly quality of life improvements ๐Ÿ™‚

                                  Whatโ€™s coming in 7.3

                                  • (mail) Per mailbox quota - message limit and size
                                  • (mail) VERP and bounce management for mailtrain and mautic
                                  • SFTP export flag for volumes We will enhance the web file manager instead
                                  • (mail) Virtual all directory in dovecot for search
                                  • (mail) Expose mail queue operations
                                  • (mail) wildcard aliases
                                  • (mail) send as subaddress
                                  • External app links in Dashboard
                                  • storj/filebase integration
                                  • Expose groups via LDAP: already implemented in a previous release
                                  • Set domain of LDAP server
                                  • Configurable TURN server
                                  • Backup integrity
                                  • OpenVPN/Wireguard integration
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                                  jdaviescoates
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                                  @girish said in What's coming in 7.3:

                                  (mail) VERP and bounce management for mailtrain and mautic

                                  What about Listmonk? (or does that have such stuff built in already?)

                                  I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                  • nebulonN nebulon

                                    We have added the external app link support now as well. You can think of this as basically some bookmark system to allow putting plain URLs as links into the dashboard to provide organizations a way to use the Cloudron dashboard as a landing page for their users. The link visibility works the same way as for any other app and generally those links look just like apps on the Cloudron.

                                    The UI is currently being finalized but looks mostly like this: 4fdc9aab-7268-4879-8dd0-24c66c54753a-image.png

                                    37acba81-abf9-4a8d-91f4-60c6a67c76eb-image.png

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                                    #42

                                    @nebulon I don't suppose you could make a way for all of us that have created Surfer apps with html meta refresh to a URL to convert all those apps to these new External Link shortcut apps? I have dozens of them!

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                                    • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                                      @girish said in What's coming in 7.3:

                                      (mail) VERP and bounce management for mailtrain and mautic

                                      What about Listmonk? (or does that have such stuff built in already?)

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                                      girish
                                      Staff
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #43

                                      @jdaviescoates IIRC, Listmonk is able to uses POP3 to read bounce emails and unsubscribe.

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                                        Filebase integration is not possible at the moment because of https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/5171/add-storj-and-filebase-as-backup-options/8

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                                          (mail) VERP and bounce management for mailtrain and mautic
                                          (mail) send as subaddress

                                          These are implemented now.

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